(October 21, 2012 at 11:03 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: And as usual, I always get spoken to in such a civilized way around here!
My point is that you can cure little to nothing. My point is that you can't stop an old woman from getting old, getting sick and dying. You don't want suffering in this life, but still, suffering comes.
My point is that there are higher powers than you in this universe that you're forced to surrender to.
"But wait! The stupid flying spaghetti monster fairy asshole Bible God isn't making me suffer! I don't believe in the stupid old myths, you stupid, creationist asshole idiot no-proof moron! It's just natural laws of the universe (whatever the fuck that even means)!"
You're naturally entitled to whatever frame of reference floats your boat.
My point is simple: atheists experience a higher power, if in no other way, by their suffering.
How is suffering attributable to a higher power? Suffering comes from the basic fact that we are alive. We are all born, we will all die. If we are lucky we'll grow old, only to watch our bodies betray us as they decay and move toward the inevitability of death. If we aren't lucky, we'll die in infancy or childhood or by some violent means. Life is suffering and pain... But there's also the flip side to that, life can be beautiful, moving, and awe-inspiring. There's no higher power involved.