Theory number 3.

[Mystic]

Mystic's my boy because he is obviously still in the grip of beliefs of a sort that many of us held at one time. Anyone who can admit to agnosticism is being pretty straight with himself. I respect his process whatever it is he ultimately ends up believing.

Thanks Whateverist. Right now I don't believe either way. I mean agnostic not in the sense of not knowing, but without belief either way. I'm allergic to the other word, so I prefer not using it.

I have an inclination to a higher power and soul, but it's emotional more then intellectual.

Also one thing that makes it seem a higher power highly plausible to me, is that it seems to be that it's impossible that consciousness developed out non-consciousness from process of evolution. I'm going to email some scientists about this, but, the essential problem is that at one point there needs to be a step between non-consciousness and concsiouness no matter how weak it is. But such a step is obviously so complex it can never happen by one mutation or several mutations at the same time, but takes a very high number that can't just be random. Therefore it's like an educated argument from semi-ignorance.

The cosmological argument although is an argument from ignorance, still seems to me, to make the case of a higher power highly plausible.

I would say these reasonings have to be debunked completely for me to lose total inclination to a higher power.

An eternal knower of all praise, good, value at whatever level, seems to be necessary by intuition still.

But right now, I don't have confidence in these reasoning. So I don't believe in them. Just they gave me a strong hope that a higher power exists.