RE: Theory number 3.
October 28, 2012 at 3:58 pm
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2012 at 4:00 pm by Mystic.)
(October 28, 2012 at 3:45 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Is there a significant gap?
I think it's rational to incline to that idea.
Quote:Could, perhaps, a 'non-concious' entity evolve into an entity that is only vaguely aware of its surroundings?
By means of naturalism, it seems to be not the case, right now to me.
Quote:It all depends on what conscious is deemed to be; how well integrated must the senses of an organism be to call it conscious?
Whatever level of consciousness it has, there is a significant gap between non-consciousness.
Quote: It is difficult to draw a line between a human and an ape, but we know that humans are different from lower primates.
Yeah but in this case, there is can be perpetual change. There doesn't have to be a step between a human and a primate. There is gradual change and we can't even put a line. But the same is not true of consciousness and unconsciousness. Whatever level of consciousness exist as weak as it maybe, it's significantly different from non-conscious.
Quote: We also know that this transition occured solely becasue of evolution.
This is news to me. Evolution is a theory, not a certain knowledge.
Quote:We also know that the non-conscious entities evolved into conscious ones (unless you are a creationist).
I don't have to be a creationist. To be a creationist, it means I claim to believe evolution didn't happen. I don't have to be evolutionist, because it doesn't seem to be conclusive to me. I don't even have to believe evolution can possibly explain life, let alone, that it does, to not be a creationist.
And the truth right now, my agnosticism is a total state of confusion. I don't know that I don't know type confusion.
It's not the type that asserts I am unconvinced by evidence that there is no higher power neither is it the type that claims I cannot know or that I do not know deep inside.
I am "confused" .
Quote: So, what does this tell us, then? (not rhetorical)
We put faith in authorities too much I don't have to believe in evolution to justify my lack of belief in God or a Creator. I can be agnostic, and think there is strong arguments for a Creator, just that I don't feel confidence in arguments anymore.
I think the best word to describe by position is "confused".