Human Value Nonexistent?

[Mystic]

Why do we need a "higher purpose" for life to be meaningful? Why can't we make our own meaning?

Well you can decide to live for whatever reason you want. In this sense you can have your own purpose. But I don't even know what is meant by meaningful. There is all sorts of emotional driven motivations to live. Yeah you can love life.

But tyrants love life too. And they aren't will to give up their power all for the sake of the meaning they make for themselves.

Is the meaning they make for themselves truly meaningful? Is that their purpose? In one sense yes, but theists are grounded to say that is not the true purpose.

In other words, if I make it my purpose to make people sad for example, it doesn't really mean that is meaningful if I make my purpose to live.

If I live to be "cool" as can be, to be "wild", doesn't mean that is the meaning of why I'm here.

Yes even Theists believe everyone can have their own meaning in that sense, but all that meaning is unjustified...

You can believe you purpose here to convince everyone you are god like some delusional people do. It doesn't make there true meaning.

In this sense, without belief in a cosmological meaning, we can act to make ourselves feel better.

Perhaps evolution favored the idea of us coming up with myths to explain our purpose for being here, because those semi-humans are the ones that lived in harmony.

With higher intelligence, pure instinct is not enough to drive us, we needed the sense of purpose.

Also, with a cosmological judge, we feel there is an objective perception of who we are. In fact, we constantly assume there is an objective judgement possible to who we are. And if we didn't we wouldn't even partially judge people.

So this concept of judging people, judging beauty, was needed in evolution, but is it with any justification?

Do we even know ourselves let alone anyone else truly?

It seems the Ultimate Judge/Perceiver concept is also so foundational in society.

The belief in judgement after death is pretty much universal in cultures/religions.

But this all assuming their is an objective judgement of who were are.

Try as we might, we can't but help judge people and judge ourselves.

The concept of "praise" we take for granted. But is it even possible without an objective praiser? And who is that objective praiser....look at people, they praise one person that is condemned by others.

They praise on thing, and others condemn it. We are confused people.

Perhaps why Islam might win the hearts of humanity and be the universal authority in the future, is that it provides guidance in all aspects of life. In the case of Christians and Jews, it seems they want to ignore the old teachings to the Isrealites. They don't want to apply the laws and punishments.

In other words, the society is not looking to God to guide them that much, instead, they just want to believe in Jesus and do as they please.

Islam brings God into all aspects of life.

Sure you can make your own meaning and purpose, but people feel the need for religion for an objective meaning.

Of course, they are deluding themselves like we all are.