Human Value Nonexistent?

[Mystic]

Maybe you should lower your expectations? I don't know why anyone would assume (expect, or hope) that any treasure lay at the end of the rainbow of life..as it were.

Evolution wise, because it worked. It gave us strength. We sought the truth, but we wanted the truth to be what we want it to be. The belief in our myths of our society. It gave us harmony. Or of the flip side, it maybe like how we know even before we ever have sex, that we will feel good when we have it, and we know the feeling even without ever doing it to an extent, that it will be pleasurable....perhaps there is a soul, and it's attracted to finding a purpose that will give it peace.

I don't know personally or even don't know if I don't know personally. Perhaps some mystics have found the truth. Perhaps some people are sure they have a soul and purpose. I can't distinguish my mysticism from my schizophrenia. So I don't know personally or since the mystics insist we do know deep inside, I don't know if I don't know.

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that any treasure lay at the end of the rainbow of life..as it were.

"There is not a thing but with us it's treasure and we don't send down but in known measurement" - Probably my favorite verse.

That God is the Ultimate treasure and that we all have a treasure descended from him. That we all have inner beauty that transcends physical beauty. Evolution wise, beauty is just a made up concept to attract us to one another and enjoy nature and society.

When I learned "Hussain" means beautiful, the story of Karbala, was just more beautiful (it's in sad way).

The struggle for justice and sacrifice for it, is it beautiful objectively, or is it meaningless. Did Imam Hussain and his companions sacrifice their lives for nothing?

We are emotional beings. Morality evolution wise would not have been a rationally thought code. It would be based more on instinct, but then we seek justification. Myth was a justification. Does Naturalism justify it. Seemingly no.

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The belief in "judgement" of the "God" or "the Gods"...justifies that there is an objective judgment to who we are. We already believe there is an objective judgment to who we are, then seek to justify it.

Human value was justified by myths in the past.

People act like the objectively know you enough to make a judgment call on you, and insult you often, like people do here on the forums to theists (and even me) but then we incline to say, who cares about what they think.

But where did we get our perception of ourselves. It's all from ourselves? If it was, insults would never hurt. Praise would never feel good. We like to hear positive feed back.

And a person who relies on his own perception of himself ignoring what all others think is probably the most egoistic deluded person if there is a such thing as an objective measurement to ourselves.

The human inclination then is to be believe "no one can truly judge me but God" or "the Gods".

Myth helps us confirm instincts we take for granted. Atheism is hated more then religions, and Atheists are distrusted more, by religious people, then any other people.

But is their fault? Or did evolution hardwire us like that