Human Value Nonexistent?

[Mystic]

You're ignoring the possibility that myths were simply an elaborate way of expressing a value we already perceived within ourselves and each other (and if the remnants of our little social units are any indicator of the inner workings of men we valued each other long before we went about myth-making).

Actually this is what I'm stating. But it's not that one developed without the other. They went together. Without myth to give a structure to the instincts in society, people would not have felt justified. Specially with the sophistication of primitive society.

What is the justification that there is an objective value to anyone without myth?

We love of ourselves out of pure instinct as children. We didn't have a rational justification. We appreciated our mother and father. We didn't have a rational justification.

We believe in an objective judgment to who were are, and so far, only myth justifies how that is even possible.

You, for example, may see the beauty in such an act as the beauty of sacrifice, but those who perform it may see the beauty of such an act as the beauty of what motivated the sacrifice.

It's the spirit behind the action that I find beautiful, I imagine a Hussain, and whatever my imagination has of him, reflected by belief of how such a motivation would look like from my our perception of inner beauty. Not the simple act. In Islam, it was always emphasized that actions are measured by their intentions. I know we judge others, I know we judge ourselves, and I know we believe in praise.

I think however, myths and those instincts through the naturalism perspective, came together hand to hand.

The moral instinct without belief in soul, gods, spirits, metaphysical good and metaphysical evil, would never be as "strong" as it is.

In animals, they act on moral instinct. Humans getting intelligent, would need a justification for those instincts.

Or that the instincts became stronger and morality became more sophisticated then from primitive in conjugation with myths.