Human Value Nonexistent?

[Mystic]

You think that myth provides a rational justification?

No, but it works. It makes you feel justified in your perception of value of yourself, of others, of praise, of morals, etc...

That we do not require "justification" to value things would be implied by your own argument, as we clearly valued each other before these myths were present (and again, this is in your own statements - you choose to differ to instincts).

Animals value each other. But they don't ponder "why"? Animals don't insult one another, and praise one another constantly, to require a need to believe in a objective value to themselves.

Yes we valued each other as primates, but without the sophisticated perception of value we have now. Myths was favored by evolution. It doesn't mean they are correct, but it's the human condition to believe in myths.

That intelligence does not require "rational justifications" for it's impulses, urges or actions is again implied in your own argument by the same statement.

Heh, well try to understand. It wasn't always required. A monkey can value itself by pure instinct. But where intelligence (logic) and instinct is developing, there needed to be myth at one point.

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You are just dying to be "special," aren't you?

This is true. We believe naturally as humans we are special and we can become special.

Otherwise, we really shouldn't feel it's ok to kill cows to eat. If cows are as valuable as we are, why should we slaughter them and end their lives?

Humans needed to feel superior to other animals. They hunted animals and ate them for survival.

Again, naturalism perspective doesn't justify us killing animals. Myth did.

"What am I" ?

Yes, we needed "gods" and "god" to feel special.

What makes him a loser? He is only being human.