(October 30, 2012 at 12:09 pm)genkaus Wrote: Wrong. That is not a valid reason to value anything.
I seem to agree with you, but it seems such is that state of humanity.
Believing in objective value is not a reason to value anything. Yet it's our most foundational belief that drives us to value things.
Quote:Wrong - since it proceeds from an incorrect premise.
Explain to me, how anyone would have subjective value to anything, without believing it's of value in reality?
At most, you value yourself, and do things for yourself. Evolution wise, it's a passionate instinct. It doesn't need justification, it's just what it is. It's make us flourish, we like, we enjoy, it works.
Quote:Yes, you can, if you can show why it should be.
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Or if I believe in a lie of why it should be
We are all seeking purpose. It's the human experience.
Value of yourself is foundational survival instinct. A cow values itself and doesn't want to die. We don't care about it's own value of itself, we kill it and eat it.
Humans sense of value is probably the highest sense of value on earth. But is any of it justified rationally?
And the sense of value seems chaotic worldly wise, but in the tribe/nation/culture, it seems stable, by simply praise value consensus.
Have enough people praise a thing excessively, and it becomes more valuable in our perception.