WTF Atheists!?

[Brian37]

Lets be realistic here, you are not going to get rid of religion, but you can contain it with secular concepts like the Constitution, well, at least the founders intent ant not the rivized bullshit theist sell.

I certainly wouldn't want to try to get rid of religion. Whatever else can be said about it - and it can - religion does give people a sense of security, community, even hope sometimes. In that sense, it's like a drug, from which it may be possible or even critical to wean people. The Clergy Project is working proof of that. Hopefully, in the longer term, religion will then evaporate on its own. What we can do in the meantime is to keep religion as an institution from accruing power and influence over the weak, the disenfranchised and the gullible. It could be regarded in terms of a 'war' of sorts against the tobacco companies, preventing them from poisoning new recruits while at the same time caring for those who want to escape the drug's hold. I realise this may be somewhat less than focused, it's late and I'm overtired. My excuse and I'm stuck with it

But you are right, anything ANYTHING can go off the rails if left unchecked, that can be religion, but it also can be political parties of any stripe, or even a business climate(IE) like the one that fucked us all over. Everything needs some sort of checks and oversight based on consent, otherwise fascism surely is to rise.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke

Just a future reminder, anytime I respond to these comments it is not for your benefit it is for the benefit of the theist who might read this and missunderstand what you say.

All it takes is an unqualified statement out of context like "The world would be better off without theism" and what they hear is "THERE ALL GONNA KILL US"

When we say that what we mean is "I think the world could do better with more reason and less superstition"

It sounds silly to you and me that people react like that but they do. So I just added that comment to ease any fears they might falsely buy about atheists.

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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

I actually hate that quote. I have no doubt that people who think abortion is murder and if they don't stand up for the good people who are against it and stand up against the evil baby killer supportes like us.

That is a loaded cliche and can be used by anyone with a personal agenda.