(November 1, 2012 at 2:55 pm)John V Wrote: This is a simplistic use of “god’s will,” which is usually broken down into at least two types – sovereign and desirous (some use different terminology and additional types). The argument above correctly notes that nothing goes against God’s sovereign will, but incorrectly implies that all things are part of his desirous will.
Care to define either of those?
(November 1, 2012 at 2:55 pm)John V Wrote:Darkstar Wrote:Huh? I thought god granted us dominion over the earth. I can't remember who said it, but someone did.Er, yes, but the question was, “On what basis do we have rights apart from those God grants us?”
If god granted us dominion over the earth, then why are you complaining that we eat other animals?
(November 1, 2012 at 2:55 pm)John V Wrote:Darkstar Wrote:EXACTLY! God created the first two humans, let humanity expand outward for millenia, and then claimed ownership of it all! Wasn't there a parable about reaping what you have sown? I guess that's just more christian hypocrisy, then.I can’t address this as I have no clue what the point is.
It really isn't that difficult of a concept. but I'll clarify it. Let's say you magically create two errr...something...let's just say foxes. One male and one female. You then release them into the wild. Pretending that inscest doesn't result in birth defects (like the Noah's ark story so graciously does) these foxes reproduce many times, eventually populating a large area. Many years later, you go into that area and claim all of the foxes living there as pets. You didn't create them; you only created the initial two. Yet, you feel entitled to them all. God only created Adam and Eve, everyone else is a result of procreation. The question is this: Why does god claim ownership of all 6 billion+ humans alive if he only ever created two, who are both dead?
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.