(November 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm)Darkstar Wrote: What is a 'right'? Do rights objectively exist? If by selfish you mean for the species as a whole, and not helping other animals directly, then in a way yes. Our justification was survival and now is dietary. We could live without meat, it would just be harder. However, god cannot encouter hardship, so why does he need us? We raise livestock, and if we kill animals during hunting, the animal had a chance. We don't order all the animals in a forest to line up so we can eat some of them to satisfy our non-existant hunger. Note that I'm comparing our 'need' for meat with god's 'need' to manipulate us.I noted it. It's arbitrary and self-serving. You don't care about the survival of the things you kill. What makes you different?
Quote:Plants are still technically alive, so it depends on how far down you are willing to go. Humans are sentient, but not all powerful. If we were all powerful we would just be thinking steaks into existence, rather than killiing animals to get them.I have no intention of eating a pit bull, but I would kill one if it were attacking a human. The ants around here do not sting or bite or carry disease, yet I kill them for merely annoying me by crossing a boundary which they can't possibly understand. No one faults me for it. Why not?