Uganda passing law that allows them to put homosexuals to death.

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Adultery in Western society is considered bad. Promiscuity in Western society is considered bad. Simply because Westerners view these things as bad, doesn't mean every other society shares that view.

It's not just considered bad - it is bad.

And how do you know this? What is your experience with Africa? Did you study African cultures in school? Have you ever been?

I do a lot of reading, and I've been told by African people on numerous occasions about their practises.

I was talking to a Saudi Arabian 2 years ago - he was a pretty extremist Muslim, and he was telling me about how great his country is. I rattled a few facts off my head like if it's so great why can't women drive, and how would their economy survive without crude oil etc, and he said "how do you know so much about Saudi?"

If these figures are taken from a community, of mainly white, Australians, how are they representative of Africans? Are you saying that because the gay community in Canberra has a higher unemployment rate, more drug use, and more group sex than the general population, that it must be applicable to other gay communities in different countries? If so, I'm sorry, I won't take that leap with you.

You've misunderstood. It simply shows that in the gay community drug use is higher, STI's are higher, number of sexual partners in the last 6 months is higher, unemployment is higher, etc, this isn't unique to Canberra - it's the same in Sydney, Melbourne, and the other capital cities where the periodic surveys are done. I imagine the same would be true in the USA and other western countries. How would you address the problems is my question. You're not going to tell people not to engage in gay sex, you're not going to tell them not to have gay relationships - how will you address the issues of drugs, STI's and unemployment in the gay community - besides "do nothing"?

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You state that gays are a bunch of promiscuous STD carrying scallywag drug users ( more than non gays ) and that that is such a huge problem, and you tell me that i don't know what you are on about ....

Incorrect, I don't tell you it at all. The information is supplied here. I'm simply pointing out what it says, nothing more.

....... I really don't know where to start Daniel, i don't want to resort to ad hominem attacks but you make it really hard for me to have some sort of understanding about your way of thinking ...

You and your ilk are imo the main reason of the so called problems you put forward.

And naturally you have evidence?