(November 14, 2012 at 12:17 am)ronedee Wrote: John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.That means that Jesus only acted as an intermediary between God and his people and that's why he said "No one comes to the Father except through me." And "I am the way and the truth and the life" basically means that the only way to come to the Father was by following Jesus' teachings. That doesn't mean that he was God.
There is another verse that tells Christians to pray to the Father in the name of Jesus, but not to Jesus:
John 16:23-24: "In that day you will not ask me for anything. I tell you the truth, my Father will give you anything you ask for in my name. Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, so that your joy will be the fullest possible joy."
http://www.heartlight.org/wjd/john/1018-wjd.html
(November 14, 2012 at 12:17 am)ronedee Wrote: Hebrews 10:20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh,I think you are really stretching it if you interpret that to mean that Jesus is God.
(November 14, 2012 at 12:17 am)ronedee Wrote: The idea is, that there is by means both of the veil of the temple, and of the body of Jesus, a medium of access to God. God dwelt in the most holy place in the Hebrew temple behind the veil by visible symbols(which tears top to bottom upon Christ's death), and was to be approached by removing the veil. And God dwells in heaven, in the most holy place there, and is to be approached only through the offering of the body of Christ.I didn't understand that verse entirely, but it seems that what it implies is that the offering of the body of Christ and the tearing of the temple (the Tabernacle?) was somehow a medium of access to God, the Father. Even assuming that is true, your implication that Jesus is God still doesn't follow from that as far as I understand.
(November 14, 2012 at 12:17 am)ronedee Wrote: The flesh is meant to die with our sinful nature(that we freely chose). But our spirits "can chose" to live on in the divine nature of God!That doesn't that mean Jesus is God, though. And see my comments above.
Plus, a verse that asserts that Jesus was a human:
"There is one God and one way human beings can reach God. That way is through Christ Jesus, who is himself human." (1 Timothy 2:5)
(November 14, 2012 at 12:17 am)ronedee Wrote: As much sense as this makes to us...this is a leap of [Faith]! So, what can a Christian offer a person w/o faith?I agree that this is a leap of faith ... I made this thread only to analyze the interpretations of some of the verses that Christians use in order to show that Jesus himself is God and to see for myself whether or not that belief is Biblically demonstrable.
