Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat

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Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat

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RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat

November 28, 2012 at 8:06 am

(November 28, 2012 at 4:23 am)CliveStaples Wrote: I brought up non-penile forcible insertions because it seemed to me to fit your criteria for what makes rape so vile--"violation of one's body", "a violation of the person's very being", etc. So the gulf between rape and "non-penile forcible insertion" (e.g., a fake penis) seems like a distinction without a difference (modulo concerns regarding pregnancy and disease, which you have asserted contributes a "lot" to the shame and fear caused by rape).

Just to clarify the "violation of one's body" and "a violation of the persons very being" were from my definition, not Shell's. I believe what Shell is getting at is the distinction between penile and non-penile penetration. Many jurisdictions do make a distinction between these two, though they typically carry the same weight.

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Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 25, 2012 at 12:19 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Annik - November 25, 2012 at 12:37 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 25, 2012 at 10:22 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by TaraJo - November 25, 2012 at 11:04 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by cratehorus - November 26, 2012 at 5:05 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by cratehorus - November 25, 2012 at 4:27 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Gilgamesh - November 25, 2012 at 4:30 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by KichigaiNeko - November 25, 2012 at 5:06 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by festive1 - November 25, 2012 at 9:45 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by TaraJo - November 25, 2012 at 10:19 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 25, 2012 at 11:13 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Anomalocaris - November 25, 2012 at 12:42 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 25, 2012 at 1:09 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Anomalocaris - November 25, 2012 at 1:32 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 25, 2012 at 2:32 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Anomalocaris - November 26, 2012 at 4:03 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Something completely different - November 25, 2012 at 1:33 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 2:35 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Gambit - November 25, 2012 at 2:46 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 25, 2012 at 2:53 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Gambit - November 25, 2012 at 3:12 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 3:26 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 25, 2012 at 3:37 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 8:25 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 25, 2012 at 9:09 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by The Grand Nudger - November 26, 2012 at 12:35 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Cato - November 26, 2012 at 1:47 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 26, 2012 at 1:29 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by The Grand Nudger - November 26, 2012 at 1:56 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Creed of Heresy - November 26, 2012 at 2:34 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 26, 2012 at 10:49 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by cratehorus - November 30, 2012 at 11:57 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by festive1 - November 26, 2012 at 5:53 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by JohnDG - November 27, 2012 at 3:41 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 27, 2012 at 11:18 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Anomalocaris - November 27, 2012 at 1:31 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by CliveStaples - November 27, 2012 at 1:37 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Anomalocaris - November 27, 2012 at 1:48 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by festive1 - November 27, 2012 at 1:51 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by CliveStaples - November 27, 2012 at 1:56 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Anomalocaris - November 27, 2012 at 1:54 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 27, 2012 at 2:16 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by CliveStaples - November 27, 2012 at 2:23 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 27, 2012 at 2:45 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by CliveStaples - November 27, 2012 at 3:18 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Anomalocaris - November 27, 2012 at 2:23 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by festive1 - November 27, 2012 at 2:40 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 27, 2012 at 3:25 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by CliveStaples - November 27, 2012 at 3:38 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 27, 2012 at 4:24 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by CliveStaples - November 28, 2012 at 4:23 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by festive1 - November 28, 2012 at 8:06 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Anomalocaris - November 28, 2012 at 2:59 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - November 27, 2012 at 3:45 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Anomalocaris - November 27, 2012 at 5:15 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by Shell B - November 28, 2012 at 11:18 am

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2012 at 2:51 pm

RE: Women in the Military More Likely to Be Traumatized by Sexual Assault Than Combat - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2012 at 3:22 pm

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