RE: Will AI ever = conciousness or sentience?
November 28, 2012 at 6:41 pm
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2012 at 6:45 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 28, 2012 at 6:33 pm)Rayaan Wrote: The difference, to me, is that machines can be self-aware only in a mechanical type of fashion because their behaviors and their decisions are purely determined by a set of rules (which they have been programmed with).We'd have to show that ours aren't...not just that we're ignorant of those rules (if they exist) for this to make a sound difference between the two. Are you ready to do so?
Quote:Consciousness, however, is something that I think of as a combination of many different things which includes things like attention, feelings, intentions, imaginations, and even free will to a certain extent. I don't think it's possible for AI machines to have those attributes.It's complex, okay (ignoring that it may not be). But complex isn't a barrier for a machine. I get that you don't think it;s possible..but why don't you think it's possible?
Quote:Also, as far as I know, AI machines are intelligent only in the sense of being able to solve problems (by searching), but that is not "thinking."As far as you're aware.....you're aware of existent AI machines? Further, you don;t think you do any "searching" in the the way you think? Less complicated, currently, sure...but I haven't anything here that substantiates a fundamental difference in what a machine could accomplish lain aside what we can accomplish (or a demonstration that we accomplish any of these things to begin with).
The requirement to do any of these things we might invoke -simultaneously- isn't any barrier to what a machine might be capable of doing. So we build a bunch of modules capable of producing whatever it is we care to invoke..then hook them up to an aggregate. Just how good do you think we are at doing a bunch of things simultaneously anyway?
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