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Why Are So Many On Welfare
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RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare
(December 1, 2012 at 6:15 pm)JohnDG Wrote: There you go again with super consumer thinking
I prefer to think of it as modern and rational thinking.
Quote:what if both the baker and you did not have to go to each other or barter. What if you could just get what you needed without having to buy or barter for it or even receive it from another person?
Because the only society this could ever happen in would (as Annik correctly pointed out) be a fully automated one. All the work is done by robots, and the robots are repaired by robots (or themselves). Robots that have new functionality are all designed and built by robots too. The problem with this scenario is that even if it were possible, it is not going to happen in our lifetime, and quite possibly not in the lifetime of anyone in the next thousand years.
Quote:Then we could all spend our live's focusing on whichever intellectual or entertainment hobby's we wish. Sadly people want to have a credit or barter system so they can say I have this and that and he doesn't. Annik was right the it would need to be an automated society, which people just aren't ready for. Have fun living life for simple greed.
It's not that people want a credit or barter system in particular...it's that money is the best solution we have *right now* for the problems we suffer. It's all very well and good saying that robots would fix everything, but it's just not a viable solution at the moment. Aiming for it is rather silly; we don't even know if we can achieve it.

I don't live my life for simple greed. Sorry if I gave that impression, but understanding what money is and how it works does not mean I'm in love with it.
(December 1, 2012 at 7:56 pm)cratehorus Wrote: yes, i really do beleive it, why? do you have questions? or are ya just being a crypto-fascist neo nazi teabagging klansmen??
Yes, here's a question: How is money / work slavery?

Here's another: What the fuck is a crypto-fascist neo nazi teabagging klansmen, and why do you think I am one?
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Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Minimalist - November 30, 2012 at 10:47 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by JohnDG - November 30, 2012 at 11:15 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by cratehorus - November 30, 2012 at 11:36 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Tiberius - December 1, 2012 at 5:12 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by JohnDG - December 1, 2012 at 6:08 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Aractus - December 1, 2012 at 8:07 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by festive1 - December 1, 2012 at 8:44 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by cratehorus - December 1, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Aractus - December 1, 2012 at 3:57 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Tiberius - December 1, 2012 at 7:28 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by JohnDG - December 1, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Darkstar - December 2, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by jonb - December 1, 2012 at 7:57 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Aractus - December 1, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by TaraJo - December 2, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Annik - December 1, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Autumnlicious - December 2, 2012 at 2:59 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Tiberius - December 2, 2012 at 2:55 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Kousbroek - December 2, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by cratehorus - December 2, 2012 at 7:29 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Aractus - December 2, 2012 at 9:00 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Aractus - December 2, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Creed of Heresy - December 3, 2012 at 12:42 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Justtristo - December 3, 2012 at 2:06 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by festive1 - December 3, 2012 at 9:02 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Aractus - December 3, 2012 at 9:44 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Justtristo - December 2, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Autumnlicious - December 2, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by TaraJo - December 2, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Kousbroek - December 2, 2012 at 6:07 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Justtristo - December 2, 2012 at 7:33 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by jonb - December 2, 2012 at 8:20 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Annik - December 2, 2012 at 8:51 pm
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Aractus - December 3, 2012 at 6:51 am
Why Are So Many On Welfare - by festive1 - December 3, 2012 at 10:52 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by DoktorZ - December 3, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: Why Are So Many On Welfare - by Darth - December 3, 2012 at 11:14 am

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