(October 8, 2009 at 5:41 pm)Ace Wrote: Not at any point did I say there is no possibility that I missed it. I haven't seen any scientific evidence that jesus ever existed or that he was god and so I don't believe in it. If you think I've missed something then please present the evidence I missed.
Fair enough
Quote: I can reply to it and so here, it isn't fair for god to torture moral people. Now in response to this one, good dodge! So you won't be providing any evidence for your assertions?
Good and moral people according to whos standard? No not at the moment because things like that take along time which I havn't had recently when posting.
Quote:The scientific method is a process of gaining knowledge. To bring up hypothesis and then to experiment, test and measure all we can to find any supporting evidence for that hypothesis. Now the god concept came about long before the scientific method and so was never really pressured for evidence. Anyone can think up a god. Science is a method of fact finding/knowledge gaining. I also find it very strangely convenient how god doesn't need to be put through the rigorous testing and research of science. The only excuse on why god is able to go round the security gate is because he/it is supposedly beyond everything.
I think we can in some ways. Such as, there is a christian God (hypothesis ), based on this there are a number of ways you would expect God to act in the world and certain things not possible otherwise. If those turn out to be true then it is likely the christian God is real.
On the other hand wouldn't you have thought if anything was beyond scientific testing it would be the creator?
Mark Taylor: "Religious conflict will be less a matter of struggles between belief and unbelief than of clashes between believers who make room for doubt and those who do not."
Einstein: “The most unintelligible thing about nature is that it is intelligible”
Einstein: “The most unintelligible thing about nature is that it is intelligible”
