RE: Do we own our own lives? A discussion on the morality of suicide and voluntary slavery.
December 11, 2012 at 6:28 pm
(December 11, 2012 at 6:00 pm)genkaus Wrote: Except, right to freedom also means the right not to exercise that right - therefore, setting limits to your own freedom is a perfectly acceptable application of your right to freedom.
(December 11, 2012 at 6:09 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: He may be a great novelist, but his argument here is shit. Paraphrased: "So that you do not limit your own freedom, we are placing limits on your freedom." Even if his analogy of life=freedom were true (and I think it is not), the latter (an external entity limiting one's freedom) is worse than the former (self-limiting one's own freedom).
Camus argues for a greater evil.
Maybe phrased it wrongly.
He argued that in a world without god, meaning that there is only one life - this represents freedom. Therefor ending this "freedom" is fleeing into absurdety and into the comfort of delusions. Therefor life must be embraced and not rejected.
I to see the flaws within this way of "reasoning".
I am simply trying to find examples for philosophical arguments against suicide and he (as flaud as his argument might be) is the only one I currently one of the few I know of.
(December 11, 2012 at 5:32 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: Or one may argue with the idea of utilitarianism and say that a individual is bound to a social contract within his sociaty and therefor bound to not act selfishly by commiting suicide?
Quote:Firstly, that would depend on the terms of the contract. Secondly, suicide could also be a way to void the contract since after the person's death, the society is not obligated to fulfill any terms of the contract either.
Utilitarism rejects parts of individual liberties which could be considered non benefitial towards sociaty, therefor suicide would be seen as selfish.
but i do see the flaw within that reasoning that under certain circumstances the suicide of an individual can be benefitial for a sociaty.
Could you please express yourself clearer in regard to point 2. I cannot find the verb "to void" only the substantive "the void" and with it`s translation your sentence makes no sence to me.
