RE: Hell
October 10, 2009 at 11:06 am
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2009 at 11:07 am by ecolox.)
(October 10, 2009 at 5:46 am)Ace Wrote:Quote:In the Christian belief - God requires people like you to realize how far they are from being good (conceptually). The people who realize they are selfish repent. The self-righteous do not.I don't believe I'm selfish. I don't believe in good and evil for they are concepts. Being socially minded is caring for others. I am not in the christian belief, I'm an atheist and I see moral and decency as natural social behaviour from social animals like us. From my point of view, god had nothing to do with our social behaviour.
The self-righteous does not give blame where blame is due - hence their ability to be self-righteous and selfish.
"Being socially minded" and "caring for others" are concepts too it seems...why do you accept them as authoritative while rejecting the common notion of "good and evil".
Moral and decency is natural social behavior - does that mean we should go about naked and fight to the death for a chance to mate?
Quote:Quote:"Being socially minded is natural" - but ultimately unnecessary (right?).No, it is extremely necessary for being socially minded. If we never worked together or helped each other we'd have no society. Some large reasons for being social is to better our survival. Animals like elephants and many other social animals stay together. It is very difficult to take on an elephant young and old if your in numbers. Which is why they are hard wired to be social and stand together like we do.
Ok, but ultimately it's unnecessary. You don't have to hold to social mindedness in order to have society or to better your survival. It is possible to give the illusion of social mindedness to gain power and standing - to build society, ultimately, for your purposes.
Quote:Quote:Which means there is plenty of room for individual mindedness.Individual thoughts is something most animals have. We have the ability to question and have some understanding about our enviroment. We can make up gods to fill in missing gaps of infomation for which we have done for many thousands of years. Being able to think and question is an amazing ability but no matter what our individual thoughts, we are far from immune from making errors. Religions can be as wrong as the belief that the world is flat.
Do you think that individual mindedness could clash with social mindedness?