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"Being socially minded" and "caring for others" are concepts too it seems

Not really. It's been found through scientific study of animal behaviour and how the brain functions. Unlike your god morality it is proven.

So are you learning these concepts from science or is science just "preaching to the choir" - (i.e. your animal behavior and brain functions are what they are, no science or proving needed whatsoever).

why do you accept them as authoritative while rejecting the common notion of "good and evil"

Because good and evil are man made concepts. There is no such thing as good and evil. It is no more evil for a tiger to hunt down other animals for food. What we do like coming together in huge groups is natural to us by nature. We survive better in groups. We are hard wired for this. Being socially minded plays a huge role in how we think and care for each other. Now why should I believe some god gave us morality when no one has yet provided any evidence for a god?

The findings of science are man-made and subject to error and revision.
You said a hunting tiger is no more evil than what?? A human hunting a human for food?
If you look into the history of man you'll find that huge groups (like society today) has never been natural or hard-wired. The U.S. society is based on concepts (e.g. the Constitution, etc).
We have conflict on every level due to clashes between individuals and society.
God gives morality meaning. Why should you abstain from crime and support the punishment of criminals? Especially, why should you avoid doing things that you can get away with and that would be beneficial to you?

Moral and decency is natural social behavior - does that mean we should go about naked and fight to the death for a chance to mate?

Our self awareness gives us the ability to think, question and improve on the standards of living, to understand that actions we take or think of means we can think rationally about weather to do or not. Why the hell would we revert back to our ancestral behaviour?

Why the hell wouldn't we revert back to our ancestral behavior? It was hard-wired then, and its hard-wired now...right? Or are you relying on concepts now?

Ok, but ultimately it's unnecessary.

If it was we wouldn't have them.

Since it can be thought of as unnecessary, conflict is rampant.

You don't have to hold to social mindedness in order to have society or to better your survival.

It plays a huge role and so you kinda do need social standards. Despite our intellect, we are still controlled by our instincts. Being able to question and understand just means we can understand a good deal about our environment. We in fact can alter the environment to what ever we wish. We are doing it right now.

You need to be aware of social standards in order to create a convincing illusion, of course. Other than that I'm not sure what you're getting at...

Do you think that individual mindedness could clash with social mindedness?

No. Animals tend to think independently despite being controlled by instinct. Unique personalities.

So unique personalities could never clash with the group?