(December 13, 2012 at 12:22 pm)genkaus Wrote: Invalid argument. A subjective entity is always required for making any kind of judgment - whether moral, scientific or mathematical. What determines the objectivity is whether the basis of the judgment is reality and facts or the judge's personal will.
But if God can determine objectively what is moral, then these facts on which such objective determinations are based, are presumably out there to be discovered potentially by anyone else. God becomes unnecessary to the process and morality exists outside of God's will. Thus, the theist hold no stronger ground.
I'm still unsure of HOW moral judgment could ever be objective but I keep an open mind. Regardless, I don't see how the theist would be standing on stronger grounds for reasons I've already reviewed.
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