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No Financial Inclusion Today! No Financial Inclusion Tomarrah! Or For Eternity, Even
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No Financial Inclusion Today! No Financial Inclusion Tomarrah! Or For Eternity, Even
Anyone notices that School is about start in America, again.

One thing uniting political candidates worldwide is a belief in a deity, or belief in no deity. The first groups are religions, The second groups are easily said to be atheists, ideologues, or agnostics.

"Deities or Not," misdirects the problem. Recent recitations of "Nationalist" leanings actually show how confused the issues of "Right" and "Wrong" have become. Anyone notices that "Accusers" who cite "Nationalism:" Tend to be rich, running for office, and overall lawful supportive(?).

Except that no one does so notice(?).

So anyone can actually go back, and start it all over(?)!

(1) Humans emerged from the primeval rain forest about 5000 years ago--farming invented.

(2) Within 1500 years, Moses was preaching that a deity expected all of Israel to screw everybody: With Usury arithmetic, (Deut 23:19-20, e.g.).

(3) Post Alexander the Great, then in a Hellenistic New Testament, Matthew 25:14-30, shows how usury works. The rich get richer. Lesser incomes can't afford to keep up. Into a giant Foreclosure Crisis goes the world, even then. The Hellenist remedy is in Matthew 20:1-16. Everyone gets an equal-amount to spend in the market place, able to keep up. That could be said, "Financial Inclusion:" But nobody does.  See all the candidates running for office, anywhere!

(4) Clearly, Mohammed the Prophet would not reference the stories. Wealth from Riba was mainly discouraged. Clearly, Adam Smith made no mention of any such stories. Karl Marx would take no notice of arithmetic in anybody's stories--but Centralized credit, (arithmetic), was finally proposed. US Federal Reserve would happen, 1913. The economy of individual bank notes, (arithmetic), was at an end. Banks would collapse, so would their paper, so would their people. Even then, White Nationalism had nothing to do with it. Mostly, everyone over there had really: Yet to arrive over here.

Keynes could recognize the importance of (arithmetic): Taking no notice of the Hellenist stories. Tag-alongs like Milton Friedman would take no notice of the stories. Trained of Israel, like the Holy Father, Friedman would propose a national, usury computing based, Cost of Living Adjustment. That is even like the COLA in Social Security.

(5) Not much deity so far! My own "Friendly" heritage is of 1683, Penn Quakers. Religious Society of Friends requires no adherence to specific tenets, starting about 1650.

(6) More or less the Ford Republicans would propose an equal amount per child tax credit to offset the liberal horror of the usury-regressive, payroll Tax. Reagan-era Democrats would raise and index the Standard deduction, and personal exemptions, in the 1986 Tax Reform. (Arithmetic): Mainly, lower income taxpayers, in increasing numbers (arithmetic), were thrown off the tax rolls. Tax Cuts would no longer work to "Stimulate" a Keynesian-Friedman economy. The second Bush Presidency would try them. The lack of stimulus (arithmetic): Ran smack into usury adjusted mortgage rates, (arithmetic), and the Foreclosure Crisis (arithmetic). Obama would create the Make Work Pay Refundable Income Tax Credit. The Republicans would take that away within two years.

(7) And so on one day or another, anyone could look around and find no deity!

Arithmetic--odorless and colorless, (and not worth drinking or injecting)--remains of no value in behavioral explanations, anywhere in the world.  Some even wonder if it can be inhaled:  Especially now that school has started(?)!

See an example(?)

One nation doing White Nationalist Arithmetic, (Would anyone say it?) is Nigeria, in fact. Journalists and Politicians do not describe a White Nationalist Nigeria(?): Doing Financial Inclusion arithmetic--like the Equal Amount Tax Credits.  One White Nationalist President(?): Barack Obama, (even widely known to be half non-Christian(?): Is how the journalists and politicians all describe "Traders-Moni?" Like the US equal amount Tax Credits, 2.0 mil. Nigerian micro-businesses get equal amounts of credit--something they have never had before in history. 95% of Nigerian Commerce is Open-Air Markets. Then when the shop-owner repays the credit--like the indexation in the 1986 Tax Reform--a larger equal-amount loan for everyone: Then becomes available.

And so mostly USA knows more About White Nationalism, now that school is starting, instead of anything like that.  Elections are soon to be upon us.

Moses had screwed up the planet in the original Atrocity, Deuteronomy shown. Many even blame the Holocaust of the World-Wide-Known-Slime on that. They would be offered protection by Western Princes, suddenly imbued with the Holy Fathers--and so unable to charge anyone usury. And so the slime, then foreign to them: Were allowed to do it to the entire realms of nations.  Some might wonder if calling them "Jews" would negate an Atheist contention(?).

Financial inclusion was not a concept, even then.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(More Likely on Meghan Merkle's Secret Service--noting that some people, (Dad) should have stayed where they came from(?)!
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RE: No Financial Inclusion Today! No Financial Inclusion Tomarrah! Or For Eternity, Even
2/10

Not really even trying.
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RE: No Financial Inclusion Today! No Financial Inclusion Tomarrah! Or For Eternity, Even
Ah, fuck me another low rent?

As we say here, you should put more tobacco on that joint.
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RE: No Financial Inclusion Today! No Financial Inclusion Tomarrah! Or For Eternity, Even
Posters arewethereyet, and LastPoet, show exemplary pro-deity, anti-inclusion:  Denigration and Subjection systems of belief.  Coming out of the farming invention:  Then some were in circumstance--put to dominance.   Coming out of the farming invention, then others were put to slavery.  All were alleged to be alive through a deity or heaven filled with deities. Some would say that humans were coming to an "understanding" of how things worked.  Arithmetic was not world-wide available.  "Tree-god-growth" was easy to find.

Supernatural still makes sense to lots of people, even posting here.  Inclusion via subjugation has also been easier to find, doing the toil of creating material civilizations of the earth.  Languages and Law were easy to arrange around subjugation of peoples.  The celebrated harm of babies and older and older children:  Was getting started, not be forgotten.

"Crow, James Crow:  Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(In fact "Early Times" was not forgotten there:  Though mostly in Sumer, it was actually beer!)
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RE: No Financial Inclusion Today! No Financial Inclusion Tomarrah! Or For Eternity, Even
(August 10, 2019 at 6:18 pm)mascale Wrote: Posters arewethereyet, and LastPoet, show exemplary pro-deity, anti-inclusion:  Denigration and Subjection systems of belief.  Coming out of the farming invention:  Then some were in circumstance--put to dominance.   Coming out of the farming invention, then others were put to slavery.  All were alleged to be alive through a deity or heaven filled with deities. Some would say that humans were coming to an "understanding" of how things worked.  Arithmetic was not world-wide available.  "Tree-god-growth" was easy to find.

Supernatural still makes sense to lots of people, even posting here.  Inclusion via subjugation has also been easier to find, doing the toil of creating material civilizations of the earth.  Languages and Law were easy to arrange around subjugation of peoples.  The celebrated harm of babies and older and older children:  Was getting started, not be forgotten.

"Crow, James Crow:  Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(In fact "Early Times" was not forgotten there:  Though mostly in Sumer, it was actually beer!)

Thank you for posting this! It's nice to read something different from the same old same old.

I like Matthew 20:1-16 a lot. 

And I think that (as Marx said) thanks to the greedy engine of capitalism we now have the capacity to take care of everybody in the world, if we directed resources the right way.

Do you have some practical ideas for improving things?
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RE: No Financial Inclusion Today! No Financial Inclusion Tomarrah! Or For Eternity, Even
So there is an Old and a New Testament around which any can discard a lot.  Nixon had proposed fixed percentage wage-price, usury-based, guidelines.  Senator McGovern would offer $1000.00 per, acceptable publically even to action-actor, famous John Wayne.  With basis in ancient Greece, then simple Euclidean Geometry could be applied.  The upside-down right triangle becomes fixed percentage pay raises.  That fits into a rectangle, with lines parallel to the bottom and the top, clear across-the-box.  Pre-Keynes, the need for equal-amount players in the market-place:  Had not been known at all.  Keynes arithmetic would fill up the right, empty side, of the box:  With public works spending, for the widely left-out.  The concept of "Pay-it-back-later," does not apply even in a Trump Economy, however.  Some lies cannot be blamed on the White House.  The raises--percentage to the diagonal, equal clear across the box:  Are the little dots that make up lines, each infinite in number.  Total Net Debt approaching $70 or $80 tril. levels is probably close enough.  That being the source of money--the Total Credit Market--then "Tree-god-growth" looks more like arithmetic, and not a deity.

"Crow, James Crow:  Shaken, Not Stirred."
(Beer can still be left on the hearth, awaiting the Sumer(?)!)
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RE: No Financial Inclusion Today! No Financial Inclusion Tomarrah! Or For Eternity, Even
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Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: No Financial Inclusion Today! No Financial Inclusion Tomarrah! Or For Eternity, Even
(August 10, 2019 at 6:33 pm)mascale Wrote: So there is an Old and a New Testament around which any can discard a lot.  Nixon had proposed fixed percentage wage-price, usury-based, guidelines.  Senator McGovern would offer $1000.00 per, acceptable publically even to action-actor, famous John Wayne.  With basis in ancient Greece, then simple Euclidean Geometry could be applied.  The upside-down right triangle becomes fixed percentage pay raises.  That fits into a rectangle, with lines parallel to the bottom and the top, clear across-the-box.  Pre-Keynes, the need for equal-amount players in the market-place:  Had not been known at all.  Keynes arithmetic would fill up the right, empty side, of the box:  With public works spending, for the widely left-out.  The concept of "Pay-it-back-later," does not apply even in a Trump Economy, however.  Some lies cannot be blamed on the White House.  The raises--percentage to the diagonal, equal clear across the box:  Are the little dots that make up lines, each infinite in number.  Total Net Debt approaching $70 or $80 tril. levels is probably close enough.  That being the source of money--the Total Credit Market--then "Tree-god-growth" looks more like arithmetic, and not a deity.

"Crow, James Crow:  Shaken, Not Stirred."
(Beer can still be left on the hearth, awaiting the Sumer(?)!)

I confess to knowing very little about economics. I don't know Keynes' arithmetic at all. 

It seems to me that Matthew 20-based systems would have to be very simple -- not Democrat-style plans where you can apply for means-tested rebates if you jump through the proper hoops. 

If the source of money is just credit and debt, invented by banks, it seems that redistributing that would be possible, if the moral will was there. That's a big if.
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RE: No Financial Inclusion Today! No Financial Inclusion Tomarrah! Or For Eternity, Even
My heritage is of 1683 Penn Quakers,  In my lifetime, my oldest sister-in-law was an original JFK for President organizer, in a Committee on Capitol Hill.  later on, it would become family known that my uncle was friends with Gerald Ford--and through the Masons(?).  My father is the first to have advertised cars to the Hollywood people:  Harger-Haldeman-Gregg.  Haldeman's boy would at least make it into federal penitentiary for Obstructing Justice, in the Nixon Administration.  A Gregg legacy is that one of my Great Aunts was one of Nixon's Sunday School Teachers.

So starting early, in the USA, anyone gets to know a lot of people, and work in silent spirit--out of range, or gunshot, of NRA(?).

So mostly all I had to do was write to Congress Reps and Senators, most of whom would further know someone who knew someone.  I also went to Tax Court, for about a decade:  To 1986-87 time frame.

The Ford Republicans came up with the per child tax credit--to oppose the beastly horror of the usury regressive payroll tax, put in place by liberals.  Because of the Geometry, a more active remedy was proposed.  Indexing the Equal Amount Raise for inflation.  In the 1986 Tax Reform, Congress did that for both the Raised Standard Deduction, and the Raised Personal Exemptions.

Clinton would write, "Dear Philip, Thank you for your thorough and helpful briefing on the 1996 Default of the US Federal Government. . . ." February, 1992.

Bush II went on to ignore virtually everything, except for faulty intelligence misreadings. . .and like Senator Feinstein.

Matthew 25:14-30 then happened.

Obama created the Matthew 20:1-16 type of Refundable tax credit--$400 per adult.

That sets up a National COLA, with arithmetic like in the I986 Tax Reform.  The equal amounts could be indexed for inflation, or adjusted to become a "household" tax credit--to accommodate lifestyles.

"Crow, James Crow:  Shaken, Not Stirred!"
(Descended of the Clan of RL Stevens "Rob Roy," are we?)
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RE: No Financial Inclusion Today! No Financial Inclusion Tomarrah! Or For Eternity, Even
At work.

You're a bettet sophont than I for engaging the new poster Belaqua.

Tipping my hat to you.

Also, hello new poster! Big Grin
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