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[Ace Otana]

So are you learning these concepts from science or is science just "preaching to the choir" - (i.e. your animal behavior and brain functions are what they are, no science or proving needed whatsoever)

They are not concepts but facts. Thanks to modern technology we can examine with detail how the brain functions. It's social ties that are found often with social animals are there by nature. Studying animal behaviour shows how social thinking works. There is no preaching as you say and there are no concepts. It's called scientific findings.

The findings of science are man-made and subject to error and revision.

Religion is man made and subject to error.

A human hunting a human for food?

That actually happened many times in history. It's not evil though. Maybe a little uncivilised from our view point but not evil.

If you look into the history of man you'll find that huge groups (like society today) has never been natural or hard-wired.

They have. We behave aggressively towards other races, to other cultures invading territory, and to possible threats to family and friends. We are still controlled by nature. We are still controlled by natural instincts. From running into a burning house to save a family member to acting aggressively towards others. A horse would run into a burning barn. It does this because it's instincts tell it to. A moth flies into flames, it does this instinctively.

The U.S. society is based on concepts (e.g. the Constitution, etc).

I don't know much about the US but that means fuck all for nature. We are still animals and we are still controlled by instincts regardless of what concepts we decide to make.

We have conflict on every level due to clashes between individuals and society.

Different groups of apes go to war with each other often due to different reasons, some instinctive some not. We behave just like apes do but just a little better at killing things.

God gives morality meaning.

For you, not for me. I have yet to see any evidence of this god you speak of.

Why should you abstain from crime and support the punishment of criminals? Especially, why should you avoid doing things that you can get away with and that would be beneficial to you?

Because I think of others and I tend to gain more through helping others. If we all chose to think it's ok to do crime, there would be no society.

Why the hell wouldn't we revert back to our ancestral behavior? It was hard-wired then, and its hard-wired now...right? Or are you relying on concepts now?

It's called evolution.

Since it can be thought of as unnecessary, conflict is rampant.

Conflict is natural between all species. Social animal groups can and do fight other groups. Conflict will increase should food supply dwindle or territory threatened.

You need to be aware of social standards in order to create a convincing illusion, of course. Other than that I'm not sure what you're getting at...

You do not need to be aware of anything in order to be social animals. We are naturally social animals.

So unique personalities could never clash with the group?

Nope. No one has the same personality. Human or animal. Would be strange if it was.