(October 10, 2009 at 10:25 pm)ecolox Wrote: Apparently God thinks teaching by example is most effective. If you know of a better way then share it please.Since God knows everything, and can do anything. Why didn't he simply create humans in the first place so they can only do good, so they didn't need teaching, and why didn't he make life fair, so no one suffers? And so he's actually just?
God is just if he makes life fair.
God is unjust if he makes life unfair, even though he has the power to make it fair.
Quote:The people who are willing to die for sin like Jesus are the ones that God will have mercy on I believe.For those who don't do that, it's his fault, he has made them that way. He could have made everyone perfect like him, so there would be no 'evil-doing' or 'sinning', but no he didn't...he doesn't want that...
He doesn't want a fair world, he wants an unfair world. He must do, since he made the world unfair, despite the fact he has the power to make it fair. How is that just? He's allowing suffering when he doesn't need to.
You could say people are choosing to do evil, but that's ultimately his fault anyway - because why didn't he just make people more moral and the world a better place from the outset? Why didn't he determine a just, fair, moral, happy, and perfect reality rather than an unfair imperfect one?
Quote:The people who were/are willing to kill Jesus will be dealt with by God's wrath - they will have no excuse.
He could have determined a universe without any killing or evil. Since he can do anything, since he's omnipotent. It's his fault.
And there's no evidence that people can, at any given moment, do anything other than they're doing anyway. So it's insane to punish people eternally in hell, when they couldn't have done otherwise, unless something influenced them to do otherwise. God isn't teaching them anything, not any 'lesson', when he punishes them. He's just being dumb and a sadist.
Well, he would be, if he existed.
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