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Op/ed the "freedom" dodge
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RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge
(December 20, 2012 at 12:45 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(December 20, 2012 at 12:35 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Wow, speed limits are bullshit? Ok, I bet you I could find plenty of cops and EMT drivers and doctors and MEs that would say without compunction "fuck you".

What the hell are you some utopian anarchist? "No rules" ok, you want to live in a country with "no rules" Somalia would be great for you. That is an example of "fuck you I got mine" country where only those with guns and money make the rules.

I want speed limits. I fucking hate assholes who tailgate me and put my life at risk because they think they are fucking entitled to speed. Fuck you, your rights end where my face begins.

Civil society requires rules otherwise you have dictatorships where one man or one party make them.

In the west you rights are NOT violated simply because a rule is made that you might not like. There are tons of laws I don't like, but that is what lawmakers are for, that is what the Supreme Court is for, and that is what voting is for. We get to decide, not me alone, not you alone, WE and when WE as a society don't like something we OBEY the law until we can change it.

The morgue is full of dumbasses who think "entitlement" means projecting a utopia on a diverse society. We have speed limits, I like having speed limits and most people do. We have traffic lights too. Get over it.

Wow, way to ridiculously extrapolate what I said. I'm not any sort of anarchist and do you always drive the speed limit? The autobon is germany doesn't have speed limits, are they all anarchists?

So? Your next argument is going to be "they have less accidents". So the fuck what, they also have less cars and a smaller population. You cant do that here. There is no way on the capital beltway around DC or say the highways around LA where that would work. Those can be giant parking lots and you don't want someone speeding up behind you when you are stopped.

And again, as speed goes up the risk of more severe injury gets higher. Less accidents does not change that. Any mass that is a state of motion needs more space to slow down. Any mass that hits another mass at a higher rate of speed is going to cause more damage.

It is complete lunacy to say that "if you train everyone to be formula one drivers" and "if everyone is going the same speed", means that every road and every highway should be all blindly treated the same. That is like treating bleach like water because both are liquids.

Nothing is a blanket solution and you cant slap an idea that has limited us in one spot,, and apply that idea to everything just because it "seems" to work. While the autobon may not have speed limits I am damned sure the city streets in Germany do, so don't and me blanket bullshit utopias and try to apply your personal predilections on the rest of us.

Your attitude is the same crap Nadar had to fight to get car companies to make safer cars. They eventually did and car companies didn't go out of business because Nadar successfully pulled their heads out of their asses.

There is no such thing as a utopia so don't try to sell one just because you like it.
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Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by Brian37 - December 20, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by Great Ape - December 20, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by Brian37 - December 20, 2012 at 12:24 pm
RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by CapnAwesome - December 20, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by Brian37 - December 20, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by CapnAwesome - December 20, 2012 at 12:45 pm
RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by Brian37 - December 20, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by CapnAwesome - December 20, 2012 at 1:24 pm
RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by Great Ape - December 20, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by Brian37 - December 20, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by Great Ape - December 20, 2012 at 1:19 pm
RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by Brian37 - December 20, 2012 at 1:27 pm
RE: Op/ed the "freedom" dodge - by Jaysyn - December 20, 2012 at 1:03 pm

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