(December 25, 2012 at 4:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote: YOU POSTED THE FUCKING STATS ASSHOLE, YOU ARE THE ONE IN DENIAL
LOOK AT IT AGAIN FUCKWAD, THE GLOBAL MAP shows us lower, and DUH no shit. You want that to be the excuse to do nothing and become like the other ones with the higher rates?
you dumb ass! If you would look at the statistics you would notice that the US is very average within the western world.
Out of which one can clearly underline that:
lack of gun control is not the main reason for crime.
poverty, drug trafficing, ethnical conflict and political conflict are.
Quote:You "Our numbers are lower". Yea so lets not do jack shit so we can be exactly as insane as the deeper blue more violent countries. It would absolutely suck if we had a non existent rate like Japan, wouldn't it? But then if we did that the gun manufacturers wouldn't be able to expand their market would they?
Strawman! I never defended the gun manufacturers, so shove your strawman up your ass.
Japan also has a very low poverty rate and no political and ethnical conflict within it`s borders. One may also note, that Japan has the 7th highest suicide rate in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cou...icide_rate
If you use a statistic to prove your point. You also have to confront yourself with the gun regulations and homicide rates of other countries!
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The American homicide rate is at best average when compared to the rest of the western and entire world and certainly not higher!
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To understand that, you must understand that the US has a higher population than most other countries and therefor simply counting the murders wont bring you any far.
If you do so, the nation with the most murderes wouldnt even be the US since the list looks like this:
number 10: Russia with 14574 homicides
number 9: Colombia with 14764 homicides
number 8: USA with 14748 homicides
number 7: South Africa with 15940 homicides
number 6: Nigeria with 18422 homicides
number 5: Indonesia with 18963 homicides
number 4: Etheopia with 20239 homicides
number 3: Mexico with 27199 homicides
number 2: Brazil with 40974 homicides
number 1: India with 42923 homicides
Out of which even a 12 year old child can grasp the concept that the number of homicides within the US apears to be so high because it`s population is so big.
since when looking at a statistic which shows the countries with the highest homicide rate, things look very different:
http://www.businessinsider.com/1homicida...11-11?op=1
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When accounting for a reason for the number of homicides, one has to account for all social factors which play a role in these events.
Including poverty, social conflict, ethnical conflict and others.
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When saying that homicides are so high within the US because of it`s gun regulation, you will have to compare it wwith other nations which have low gun regulations.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/...world-list
Which clearly shows that low gun regulation is not the main reason for crime!!!
Quote:That is the same bullshit tactic the top 1% use on the middle class and working poor, "Our poor are better off than their poor". Yea, so? We should use that as an excuse to not to improve and let things get worse?
And you may shove that strawman up your ass aswell!
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"top 1%"???????? Yeah I am sure these people are just one monolythic block who act as non individuals and who all have the same goals
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And how the fuck do you bring this point in here anyway!!! What do wealthy people have to do with the crime statistics, or better put: How do they intentionaly worsen the gun statistics?
Are you a conspiracy nut?
I never argued that things shouldn`t be done to improve things.
I pointed out that by simply stricktening the gun regulations one does not tackle the problem.
Quote:You want to say that people like me are making a mountain out of a molehill,
Yes! because the homicide statistics from the US are at best average, and the solution of the crime problem you suggest is nonsence!
Quote:and again 2O kids are dead and I don't think their parents think it is not a big deal. I dare you to take this chart to them and tell them they are over reacting.
I never said that it was "no big deal" you lieing piece of stinking shit!
Fuck you!
I merely underlined that strickter gun regulation is not the solution!
We had 4 highschool massacres in Germany in the past 10 years.
And they all happened with legaly aquired weapons which the kids stole from their legal source.
The thing to advocate is responsible use and to prevent that guns fall in the arms of irresponsible users.
Which is the only point I critisis and have critisised before!
The US needs to interduce psychological tests and better background checks to assure that irresponsible people dont gain access to firearms.
Quote:You "Other people speed too and more than I do" Pathetic.
Eighter a strawman, or you are simply to dumb to understand the contents of what I am writing.
eigther way, fuck you!
