More shootings.

[Creed of Heresy]

Min, Fallen, Chuck: The problem is, as usual, you have to argue for outright banning all firearms at the road you're taking. And this guy had them illegally to begin with. Do you REALLY think he gave a shit that he was not allowed to purchase firearms? That, FOR HIM, guns WERE banned? Clearly not!

For some reason, on this site, otherwise rational, critical thinkers are reacting emotionally to this problem. Yes, I understand guns make someone more dangerous. But please, for the love of fuck, read CAREFULLY and think for a few moments, before you type up a reply, on what I'm trying to point out here.

Banning firearms does not make it impossible to get a hold of them. I can attest to how ridiculously easy it is to get firearms from any ghetto. You can go ahead and ban firearms outright if it really will make you feel better but it's a feel-good action that will do nothing to stop people who intend to commit multiple unprovoked homicides with a firearm from doing exactly that. The most you can do is make it a bit harder. But do you REALLY think these disturbed individuals are going to really care about difficulty when they're clearly ready to gun down other people and THEN take their own lives?

Oh and good luck going into the ghettos and telling all those inner-city gang-members that their guns are banned and illegal.

By the by, most of the homicides in the US are often a result of gang violence...and most of those murders don't even get investigated:

In the United States, the number of homicides where the victim and offender relationship was undetermined has been increasing since 1999 but has not reached the levels experienced in the early 1990s. In 14% of all murders, the victim and the offender were strangers. Spouses and family members made up about 15% of all victims, about one-third of the victims were acquaintances of the assailant, and the victim and offender relationship was undetermined in over one-third of homicides. Gun involvement in homicides were gang-related homicides which increased after 1980, homicides that occurred during the commission of a felony which increased from 55% in 1985 to 77% in 2005, homicides resulting from arguments which declined to the lowest levels recorded recently, and homicides resulting from other circumstances which remained relatively constant. Because gang killing has become a normal part of inner cities, many including police hold preconceptions about the causes of death in inner cities. When a death is labeled gang-related it lowers the chances that it will be investigated and increases the chances that the perpetrator will remain at large. In addition, victims of gang killings often determine the priority a case will be given by police. Jenkins (1988) argues that many serial murder cases remain unknown to police and that cases involving Black offenders and victims are especially likely to escape official attention.

Quoted from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_th...s#Homicide

Now, someone give me an ACTUAL reason why you think banning firearms is going to do ANYTHING. All I hear is this argument of scarcity, and I hate to tell you this but it's a wee bit too late to suddenly make guns go scarce in the US. Oh sure, middle America will be easy, but go on ahead and roll into the ghettos of NYC, or Detroit, or New Orleans and try to take everyone's guns away.

Bloodbath is the first word that comes to mind...

Nevermind, by the way, that Canada also has easily-available firearms. Yet their murder rate is not even close to being as high as ours. Wonder why. Maybe it's because they don't have miles upon miles of ghettos like the US does.

You can argue for banning guns all you'd like, I'd rather argue for getting more money allocated to alleviating the root cause of the problem. Kill the hate and you kill the urge to kill. Go for the roots of the weed, not the leaves, otherwise you're just wasting time.