Liers and fires and guns oh my.

[Creed of Heresy]

Could someone tell me, the gun nutters, please tell me why TWO FIREFIGHTERS were shot dead and two others wounded?

http://www.9news.com/news/article/306732...house-fire

COME ON YOU GUN NUTTERS, PLEASE TELL US WHY IT IS OK for guns to be as available as candy. I am sick of your fucking crap. FUCK THE NRA!

FIREFIGHTERS! TWO DEAD AND TWO WOUNDED and it wasn't a fucking water balloon that killed them.

I would just like to calmly point out that he purchased those guns illegally. As a convicted felon, he could not legally purchase it from any licensed gunsmith or firearm retailer, nor could he legally own one. NYC is one of the strictest cities in the US for gun control; you have to undergo extensive background checks on ANY firearm purchase. Oh, and, uh, the NYC police aggressively persecute individuals possessing firearms illegally. Strangely enough, this doesn't seem to stop the illegal guns trade. At all.

Didn't stop him. Gee, it's almost like banning firearms wouldn't do a damn thing, huh? It's almost like it's easy to get guns illegally or something...and it's almost like tracking them once they're on the streets is impossible so banning them wouldn't do a thing!

But this is a silly notion, of course, and I'm sure everyone here who has a stick up their ass about gun ownership is going to tell me I'm completely wrong, flying their arguments right in the face of reality...

Not to say I agree with the NRA's stance here, either. "BLAME IT ON MOVIES AND MEDIA!" they're now screaming. No, you fucking idiots, blame it on the asshole who was clearly fucking mentally disturbed and stop pushing it onto something else. The roots of the issue are much deeper than just "GUNS R KILL 4 PPL SO R BAD HURRR" or "VIOLENCE IN MOVISE MAKES PPL VIOLNT LOL." Something about American society makes us extremely belligerent. I'm not even going to say it's just one thing, either. This shit is a dendritic cancer that's seeped into our very culture and we need to figure out the REAL reason, not these half-assed suppositions people keep tossing around.

And the next person to say "guns make killing easier" is going to get chewed the fuck out. 5 minutes on google and I already have a laundry list of weapons that could be JUST as lethal, that I could procure at my local wal-mart with $50; less than the cost of your average handgun, with far more horrifying effects; shall I talk about loading a friggin' supersoaker with hydrochloric or sulfric acid, perhaps? Get that in someone's eyes, it'll blind them and eventually sear its way into their brain and kill them within moments. Spray it at a bunch of unarmed people! No, I'm not fucking joking, this shit can actually be done. Shall I tell everyone how to build a pipe bomb? Maybe a chlorine bomb? Maybe I can tell you all how to build a fucking fertilizer bomb! No, I don't need to do any of this because it would take a few minutes on google to do it yourselves, and ditto for anyone with murderous intent.

If anything, I'd rather keep guns legal because if NOTHING ELSE, the things people will do if they CAN'T get access to guns? These crazies deprived of guns and using the alternatives? That shit horrifies me far more than any fucking rifle in existence can!

So I'd rather see the underlying root of the problem addressed. I want the disease cured, not the symptoms being alleviated...or made worse.