Liers and fires and guns oh my.

[Brian37]

That is not, what I am trying to say!!!!!!!!!!!!


I never, not in a single post, stated that nothing should be done to lower the crime rate! I only stated that strickter regulations of guns werent the right solution.

You pointed out how our homicide rate is 'average', implying that we're making too big a deal out of it when we point out how high it is.

But this is a silly notion, of course, and I'm sure everyone here who has a stick up their ass about gun ownership is going to tell me I'm completely wrong, flying their arguments right in the face of reality...

It is completely wrong. How do you think illegal guns get on the streets? Do gun manufacturers set up a manufacturing quota of guns which will be legal and which ones won't? Do they divide distribution between legitimate gun stores and illegal gun runners?

Of course not. Illegal guns don't start out as illegal guns. Obviously, we've let many horses out of the barn already, but that's no reason to continue to leave the doors open.

What does that have to do with them not caring about the amount? You can claim all they want that the manufactures do not have the intent of selling to people who can't have them. But like any business, when new problems come up in society, laws don't always keep up with changing times and most of the time that business will do everything it can to avoid regulation, EVEN when it is clear that the product they sell is dangerous.

If you sell cars, or diapers or navel lint, your objective is to expand your market. This is no different a mistake BP made with it's oil spill. Once you forget how you can affect society that's when your product can become dangerous.

The gun manufactures to me need to be put in their place like Nader did with cars. Nader didn't call for the ban of cars, but because of his bitching, cars have become safer.

It isn't simply the manufacturers saying "we don't sell to people who shouldn't have them". It shouldn't matter. They are not worried about the epidemic of when they do sell them to legal people, how others get them from the legal people they sell them to.