(December 27, 2012 at 5:17 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:(December 27, 2012 at 4:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I'd say when we get to the point of Japan's gun death rate, we'd be on the right track, but right now Australia vs America doesn't mean much to me, much less the victims of any gun death.
Well from what I've seen, nothing means much to you when it doesn't support your own point of view. Explain to me why the UK's murder rate went up when they banned guns. It just doesn't support your point of view.
Stats ARE NOT my point of view anymore than the earth is not flat is my point of view. If you think 32 gun deaths A DAY is a FACT worth ignoring, I'd say change your medication.
Bad economy. More social instability more crime, that STILL does not mean we should ignore the physical damage guns do or the ease of which they can be obtained.
Someone else here already used the "shit happens" and "other shit happens too" as an excuse.
There is never ONE factor in society's dynamics up or down, anymore than DNA of any form of life has always been stagnate. You are merely saying "do nothing".
I am sorry that their murder rates went up, but why does it have to be a choice between more guns or less guns. How about LESS GUNS and also work on social ills, NO MATTER what crimes go up.
Japan has had it's economic instability too, and just suffered it's worse disaster in the past century. But they still have a very low crime rate, very low gun death, no matter what goes up or down.
All I see you doing is making excuses.