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More shootings.
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RE: More shootings.
(December 29, 2012 at 11:06 am)whateverist Wrote: If the UK didn't have such stringent hand gun laws they might have rates approaching our own.

I'm going to zero in on this, because I love to repeat myself. The UK used to have similar gun laws to the United States, which changed in 1963. Before their gun laws changed, the UK still had a much lower murder rate than the US. They have always had a lower murder rate. After 1963 the UK's murder rate went up, not down. http://www.murderuk.com/misc_crime_stats.html

That's why comparisons between the US and UK, or Japan and the US are not valid. The UK has always had a lower murder rate than the US, even when the gun laws were the same. There is absolutely nothing to indicate they might have rates approaching our own. Nothing at all supports that position, and the history of gun possession in the UK is totally against it. I feel like if I repeat myself on this enough, I can get people on here to stop trying to compare the UK and the US and think they are making a point.
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More shootings. - by Creed of Heresy - December 27, 2012 at 11:01 am
RE: More shootings. - by Minimalist - December 27, 2012 at 11:33 am
RE: More shootings. - by A Theist - December 27, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: More shootings. - by Anomalocaris - December 27, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RE: More shootings. - by Brian37 - December 27, 2012 at 4:17 pm
RE: More shootings. - by Minimalist - December 27, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: More shootings. - by A Theist - December 27, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: More shootings. - by The Grand Nudger - December 27, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: More shootings. - by CapnAwesome - December 27, 2012 at 4:05 pm
RE: More shootings. - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2012 at 8:04 am
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RE: More shootings. - by A Theist - December 27, 2012 at 1:31 pm
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RE: More shootings. - by Ryantology - December 27, 2012 at 4:02 pm
RE: More shootings. - by Creed of Heresy - December 27, 2012 at 6:06 pm
RE: More shootings. - by A Theist - December 27, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: More shootings. - by Ryantology - December 27, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: More shootings. - by CapnAwesome - December 27, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: More shootings. - by Brian37 - December 27, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: More shootings. - by CapnAwesome - December 27, 2012 at 5:17 pm
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RE: More shootings. - by Brian37 - December 27, 2012 at 6:28 pm
RE: More shootings. - by Creed of Heresy - December 27, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: More shootings. - by Brian37 - December 28, 2012 at 8:24 am
RE: More shootings. - by CapnAwesome - December 28, 2012 at 9:36 am
RE: More shootings. - by Brian37 - December 28, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RE: More shootings. - by Zen Badger - December 27, 2012 at 11:12 pm
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RE: More shootings. - by Creed of Heresy - December 28, 2012 at 7:01 pm
RE: More shootings. - by Creed of Heresy - December 28, 2012 at 10:38 pm
RE: More shootings. - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - December 28, 2012 at 10:59 pm
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RE: More shootings. - by Creed of Heresy - December 29, 2012 at 5:13 am
RE: More shootings. - by Zen Badger - December 29, 2012 at 5:26 am
RE: More shootings. - by A Theist - December 29, 2012 at 8:23 am
RE: More shootings. - by Zen Badger - December 29, 2012 at 8:45 am
RE: More shootings. - by Anymouse - December 29, 2012 at 8:59 am
RE: More shootings. - by A Theist - December 29, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: More shootings. - by Zen Badger - December 29, 2012 at 10:37 am
RE: More shootings. - by Napoléon - December 29, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: More shootings. - by A Theist - December 29, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RE: More shootings. - by CapnAwesome - December 29, 2012 at 10:36 am
RE: More shootings. - by Whateverist - December 29, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: More shootings. - by CapnAwesome - December 29, 2012 at 3:10 pm
RE: More shootings. - by CapnAwesome - December 29, 2012 at 6:02 pm
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RE: More shootings. - by Creed of Heresy - December 29, 2012 at 6:28 pm
RE: More shootings. - by Autumnlicious - December 29, 2012 at 7:35 pm
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RE: More shootings. - by Napoléon - December 30, 2012 at 9:22 am
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RE: More shootings. - by Minimalist - December 29, 2012 at 9:55 pm
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RE: More shootings. - by Autumnlicious - December 30, 2012 at 6:34 am
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