RE: Athiesm is a Faith?
December 31, 2012 at 6:41 pm
(This post was last modified: December 31, 2012 at 6:47 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(December 31, 2012 at 8:04 am)Aractus Wrote: That much is correct.
But
A lot of atheists, especially the kind that join atheist forums™ have a belief that God doesn't exist. That's different to not having a belief. Faith is another word for "belief", esp. where said belief cannot be proven.
Anyone here who has a belief that God doesn't exist, please speak up. I don't even have a belief that leprechauns don't exist, although I admit I would be very surprised if they turn out to be real.
(December 31, 2012 at 10:56 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote: By what authority do you claim this rule regarding burden of proof is on the claimant. And does the inability to prove something mean that you are wrong? how many innocent people are dead because the could not prove themselves innocent. I will concede that there is a logic in saying that should I want to convince you of something i believe to be true I should be leading the conversation with some evidence but in reality i'm not trying to prove anything to you so there is no burden, rather I hope to stimulate thought and discussion. As far as proofs you have already constrained the proofs by relegating spiritual and emotional intelligence to a non acceptable proof so i respect your position on this and don't bother to bring this dimension to the discussion. To sum up , I am not going to prove anything I claim and have no need to, but that does not make what i say false.
The burden of proof is on the claimant for exactly the same reason a defendant is innocent until proven guilty. It's not the defendant who has to prove they're not guilty, and it's not the one witholding belief that has to prove that what is claimed to exist does not.
