(January 1, 2013 at 5:59 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Well then, make me believe. Give me evidence for your god that satisfies the burden of proof for the concept you are presenting. To most of us atheists, it remains as just a myth, an abused legend, like santa, etc. Give me a reason, and don't hide in holy hideness.
I have been very clear about this proof question upto now, I have admitted and accepted that I can provide NO proof. And given the length of the discussion over eons of time it would be incredably improbable that I would come up with a new one you haven't come across before. I have made it clear that I see no more burden of proof in me Saying I believe in God or you saying you don't. But likewise for all the bluster and fancy word play. No one on this forum can provide any Proof that God does not exist. We both know the proof question is a dead end. I would suggest that people make the decision to change from belief or not on much more mundane and subjective experiences , behaviour patterns and thinking patterns and then look for proofs to justify their intuited position on the matter.
I have also made it clear that God / no God are both concepts of creation as lets be real NO Human alive knows with absolute certainty. Anyone who says so is a liar to themselves or to everyone else. So I can understand why you keep up this burden of proof crap is mine in order to keep trying to get me into wasting my time on an imposability and to weasel your way out of wasting your time trying to prove God does not exist.
I would like to hear from someone who came to the decision to believe or not believe because someone proved it to them before they had already began to make the switch in a much more subjective way before the PROOF. And see if this wonderful proof moves me or any other firm non atheist in the forum.
I respect your views and experiences and can understand why you can hold them but I cannot respect the continual refusal to accept that i wont be drawn into a proverbial barrel just to provide amusement for people to take gratuitous pot shots at.
Now I know that i'm not always the best at making my view clear so I would ask you to use your keen intellects and if my words aren't clear, resist the urge to try and put words in my mouth, and try and intuit what i'm trying to say. I'm confident if you do you will get it.