RE: Athiesm is a Faith?
January 1, 2013 at 10:53 pm
(This post was last modified: January 1, 2013 at 11:00 pm by Cyberman.)
(January 1, 2013 at 9:46 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: Yes its perfect timing, and I accept the many points made but I hold my position that because the God I believe in can never be proved or disproved by science EVER because He does not exist anywhere science can search or even have the tools to search. It cannot be proved or disproved. God is not like any other phenomenon that science can explore and the acceptance of a belief or not in God does not in itself hamper science from progression or making definative statements about what it is equiped to deal with.
This was all covered in the video. To accept that not only is there no evidence to support a belief but there cannot ever be such, yet to carry on believing it anyway, is practically the very definition of 'irrational'. Remember when I said that I'm not an atheist merely to be contrary, and that I am willing to consider whatever evidence might be presented? That's how this game is played. I am willing to consider that I may be wrong; how about you?
(January 1, 2013 at 9:46 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: I do not try to shift the burden of proof rather i contend that in this situation there is no burden of proof on either party unless one party sets out to prove to the other that are wrong.
Yet burden shifting is precisely what you were doing when you said "No one on this forum can provide any Proof that God does not exist." We don't have to. It's up to the party proposing something additional to the system - say, some sort of god - to provide evidentiary support. That you cannot do so is hardly my concern. As a wise man (probably Elvis or someone) once said: "Put up or shut up".
(January 1, 2013 at 9:46 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: I do not set out to prove you are wrong so no burden accepted.
Whether you accept it or not, it is yours. The only rational way to remove the burden is to abandon your claims. Can you do that?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'