RE: Without citing the bible, what marks the bible as the one book with God's message?
January 3, 2013 at 7:45 am
(January 3, 2013 at 2:31 am)Lion IRC Wrote: The existence of another tribe which ALSO had a supernatural event that they understood or interpreted differently (and/or mis-reported) doesnt undermine the accuracy or specialness of the first tribes book. In fact BOTH books might be highly valued as special by a person trying to find out which was true.
I'm just trying to show that the book is special on account of how it came into being and that adequately answers your challenge to justify how a book can come to be thought of as special without self-reference to the books content. A history book can be valuable as a thing independently of whether you like the history it records.
Yes, to those who were on the winning side of a conflict, a history book recording that victory might be more ''special'' than to someone not involved in the conflict but it is still a valuable book as far as librarians are concerned.
Or to put it another way, you dont need to be a Jew or a Christian to value the KJV.
And another thing!
Lets not forget that Moses and Abraham and Noah and Job didnt have "The Bible" so The Word of God was special long before it appeared in a book.
(January 3, 2013 at 12:55 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Wow. That's rather question begging. Assuming the supernatural in proving it.
Oh come on!!!
The Op says justify the specialness of the book without relying on the books contents and now you say dont mention the supernatural (God) cos thats BTQ. Sheesh!
You win. You cant have a bible if theres no God to talk about in the bible.
Whateverist(I think) is asking you to show why the bible is "the book" by using sources external to the bible. Not that the bible contains god and must therefore, be true.
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.