(January 4, 2013 at 8:32 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(January 4, 2013 at 8:11 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote: I contend that if you cant prove the position you take even if you express such a position as a negative then you are still accepting some part on faith regardless of who has the burden of proof.
So you take it on faith then that Odin doesn't exist, given that you can't prove that he doesn't.
Thats what he doesn't get. He assumed that he doesn't do that but he does with all the other god claims he rejects.
It does not take "faith" to reject claims of Santa. It does not take faith to reject invisible pink unicorns. It does not take faith to reject claims of little boys flying around on brooms. It does not take faith to reject Allah or Vishnu as claims.
But he simply cannot see, or his ego wont allow him to see, that the only difference between the atheist and the believer is we lack "faith" in one more god claim than they do.
Shifting the burden of proof is simply psychologically protecting one's ego. Good logic however, forces one to examine a claim before they present it to others. And on top of that, good logic allows others to try to poke holes in a claim. If it stands up to that poking, then the claimant is onto something. If it does not, the claimant gets to learn where they went wrong and values that learning experience.
The concepts of god are merely an unfortunate evolutionary side affect projecting our real evolutionary drive to spread our genes(desire to continue), and conflates it to fictional comic book levels.