(January 4, 2013 at 8:11 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote:(January 3, 2013 at 9:24 pm)mr.atheist Wrote: Not its not a faith.
Not believing in something, isn't a faith.
Its more like the opposite actually.
I contend that if you cant prove the position you take even if you express such a position as a negative then you are still accepting some part on faith regardless of who has the burden of proof.
It doesn't take faith to note that a claimant hasn't met their burden of proof. I would take your word that you tied your shoes this morning: it's not unlikely, I've no reason to think you'd lie about it, it would be irrational for me to insist that you didn't tie your shoes without knowing more (like you're a parapalegic). I take your word that you believe God is real, who am I to doubt your reports of your own beliefs? If you say there IS a God, that's something you're not in a position to know, however confident you may be about it, even if it's true, no faith needed to withhold belief pending at least the kind of evidence it would take to get me to believe in anything else.
Now I admit I have taken things 'on faith' that turned out not to be true, like daddy longlegs being really poisonous, just unable to bite humans. I trusted a source that I shouldn't have, and didn't investigate the matter. When I found out different I changed my mind, but I'm sure there are may other things I think I know that aren't true, and I only hope that most of them are as trivial as the daddy longlegs thing. It can't be helped. Casually believing something that's of cosmic import if true is not trivial, and anything like that deserves serious consideration before accepting it...although not necessarily serious consideration for dismissing it. It would not be trivial at all if I asked you to put on a tinfoil hat or your brain will explode in the next hour due to an orbiting death ray, but I wouldn't expect you to seriously consider it, or even put on some tinfoil as a precaution, just in case, unless I could make a really good case that I'm right that involved more than a really good story.
The word 'faith' is meaningless if it applies to all positions equally, which is where you're taking it.