(January 17, 2013 at 1:31 am)Rhythm Wrote:(January 17, 2013 at 1:24 am)FallentoReason Wrote: That's some pretty awesome stuff!I know right? I guess gods have to share the immortality pie with jellyfish.
I'd like to see the universes jellyfish have created some day

Quote:Quote:What three things are we talking about exactly? Immortality(?), the creator of everything & the command to worship it?Just those three, yes. I'm only attempting to narrow this down as when we began you stated that if there was a creator you;d worship it on the grounds of it's being a creator - nothing else was mentioned-. I doubted that this was true, and you, in your turn quantified my doubts. We had to keep adding things.
Ah I see, and you're right, I had more to add and you helped me get there.
I think those things are needed because they are the essence of what theistic doctrines say... especially that annoying worship me part...
Quote:The fear is where I suspected we would find ourselves eventually. Personally, I'm simply not afraid. On the next bit though, it was once the law to push the blacks to the back of the bus - and I don't get the rebellious attitude - just do it man. Here I again I doubt that this actually works for you.
That's interesting how you put it! I think I just had an epiphany and all of this actually comes down to the Euthyphro Dilemma! If what is moral is what God commands, then that means "rebelling against the system" (no matter how "good" or "bad" one might feel) should be considered the wrong action to take. However, if God commands something because it is good, then it means something about worship makes it the right thing to be doing. So, to answer our issue here we basically need to find an answer to the Euthyphro Dilemma, because that determines if * worshiping God* is the right thing to do.
Am I on the right track here?
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle