(January 18, 2013 at 7:30 pm)John V Wrote: Don't play dumb. I'm saying that living above the clouds is a factor, not the factor. That the spirit tells humans what to do or not do, and threatens to kill them if they don't obey, are also factors.
I think it's pretty obvious that you are just making your definition of a God to fit your argument, not the other way around.
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