(January 19, 2013 at 6:11 pm)ComplexityofChaos Wrote: In the gay-marriage debate, the debate primarily centers on whether the religious people will be allowed to persecute the gay, even though many gays are religious.
Where has anyone said "we want to persecute gays"? Most gay-bashers are far too illiterate to use that sentence, and most of those who could form it are against it for *wholly different reasons* than an active desire to see someone arbitrarily persecuted.
Quote:The opponents of gay marriage typically base their opposition on marriage being between a man and a woman, based on some Biblical fantasy.
Just that? Boy are you glad you weren't around for the 1960s. All this crap about black people not being allowed to marry (at all?) white peeps. Goalpost moving, these silly people aren't well studied in the history of marriage (wholly invented by and for the nobility).
Quote:The proponents of gay marriage argue that equal protection applies; that is, since straight people get to marry, gays should have the same equal rights. Both sides miss the point of the gay-marriage issue.
How about stupid people? I'm against stupid people getting the nasty on, regardless of whether they marry or not. Why should stupid people deserve the right to marry... or vote?
Quote:The fact is that it is no one's business whether two or more consenting adults want to get married. The idea one needs permission from the state to marry is offensive.
By offensive... do you mean, 'traditional'? Because one doesn't typically use the two in the same sentence. Maybe you're one of them hipsterz though.
Quote:The debate on gay marriage would be completely unnecessary if people recognized that no one has the right to tell another adult whether they can marry another consenting adult. And since no person has such a right, no group of people do either, and that includes the state.
The debate on gay marriage would be completely unnecessary if people recognized that marriage is utterly pointless, and that longterm committed relationships are wholly possible without an arbitrary written contract between a man and his propert-oh wait.
The state is exactly what feeds your little mind that you have the 'right' to do *anything*. 'The only rules are what a man can do, and what he can't.'

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