What the hell is "hell"? why do humans go to hell ?

[Brian37]

That subliminal voice is exactly what I'm talking about. Even if it was occasional & quiet.

I may well be mad but not of the voice hearing variety.

Christianity would repel anybody. But you just mentioned up there that you had thoughts, by saying (it's stupid) you're killing it.

Oh really?


http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

Why not try to say (what if) ? what if is always a good exercise for the mind.

I had mandatory religious education for 5 years at secondary school. I also took it as a subject for my final two years of school for my exams. (That meant double RE lessons some days) then took Philosophy and History of Religion for another 2 years alongside other subjects at college.

If there were a solid argument for god I think I may have heard it by now.

lol, yeah it came up weird, let me explain.

Cool.

You said the forgetting that acceptance is an idiotic thing. But it's the right thing to do, to know who is willing to believe & who isn't.

If people saw heaven, or angles, they would believe right away. That's not the goal.

Thats still pretty stupid. If I created a thing that had no way of knowing that I created it and then punished it for not know who I am or listening to my rules then that would make me a colossal prick.

The goal is to conclude it by yourself. Reaching that conclusion means that you cared.

You cared to do the right thing, you cared to know if your existence has a goal or not.

So for me, it's not like a contract & a deal. I -personally- believe, because I care to know what the truth is.

Well your going about finding the truth out wrong. My first day at secondary school I walked into an RE class and saw a diagram like this:



Although there were far more.

If there were really a god surely there would be a way to tell which religion is right or wrong. But there is not.

I therefore thing the most sensible conclusion to draw considering the lack of evidence for any religion is that they are wrong. I have never heard a convincing argument for the existence of god.

If there is a god, who created me, then I would like to thank him for what he gave me, as simple as that.

Even if there were a god I'm certainly not sure if it would be worthy of my thanks.

You were forced to forget that choice, in order to see what your action would be like.

Terrible idea. Considering a god should know what I am going to do before I do it then surely he should have ditched this daft amnesia deal. Otherwise god is to blame for putting me into a situation where I am an atheist.

There is a book I constantly recommend that shows our common condition and that labels are not a requirement to do either good or bad.

"The New Atheism" By Victor Stenger, says that science DOES have something to say about super natural claims. AND it also goes into the common overlap of the compassionate side and destructive side of the word's religions in that we use labels to feel special when the reality is we are not different.

Ultimately what humans of any religion fail to realize is that evolution was occurring long before our current boarders and political parties and superstitions, and I will continue regardless of winners or losers who base their fortunes or misfortunes on politics or religion.

I also recommend "The God Delusion" By Richard Dawkins and "God Is Not Great" By the late Christopher Hitchens.