I want to say, first off, I have no hostility when I'm in this discussion. I think we both sincerely want the same thing: for these attacks to stop happening. We disagree on how to bring it about, though.
No, I don't think it should be slow, either, but, in when you said...
My worry is that 'thinking about the problem' and 'concern for it' will replace action. I don't want procrastination on this one, I want action. As I also mentioned, if we hesitate too much, I worry that more people will be hurt long term than if we take action now. But I've always been a bit impatient, so maybe that's just my personality.
I don't like it either, but it does work. The reason the Civil Rights bill got through was because the public wached video of black people having fire hoses turned on them and having police dogs attack them. If we can get people to pay attention to rapes in the military in the same way, it would fix things a lot faster.
No, you're right, there are lots of options out there. I just want us to find one that will work and I want it to be put in enacted quickly to prevent as many of these attacks as possible. And with the human imagination as expansive as it is, it could easily be argued that we have infinate options. However, for each of those options, it does kinda come down to two options: 1) Do it or 2) Don't do it.
(January 24, 2013 at 1:13 am)Shell B Wrote: How about we don't make slow change? I never said the change should be slow.
No, I don't think it should be slow, either, but, in when you said...
(January 23, 2013 at 9:40 pm)Shell B Wrote: The onus is not on me to come up with a solution. However, I would say the steps are beginning and the subject is gaining a lot of attention lately. This is all good.
My worry is that 'thinking about the problem' and 'concern for it' will replace action. I don't want procrastination on this one, I want action. As I also mentioned, if we hesitate too much, I worry that more people will be hurt long term than if we take action now. But I've always been a bit impatient, so maybe that's just my personality.
Quote:There is no playing up a "lesser of two evils by making rape more prominent" argument to me.
I don't like it either, but it does work. The reason the Civil Rights bill got through was because the public wached video of black people having fire hoses turned on them and having police dogs attack them. If we can get people to pay attention to rapes in the military in the same way, it would fix things a lot faster.
Quote: If those are the only two options, then we are failing miserably to be creative human beings. No point in even arguing it if we are going to be that dense.
No, you're right, there are lots of options out there. I just want us to find one that will work and I want it to be put in enacted quickly to prevent as many of these attacks as possible. And with the human imagination as expansive as it is, it could easily be argued that we have infinate options. However, for each of those options, it does kinda come down to two options: 1) Do it or 2) Don't do it.
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"If you cling to something as the absolute truth and you are caught in it, when the truth comes in person to knock on your door you will refuse to let it in." ~ Siddhartha Gautama
