Math has a liberal bias

[TaraJo]

Ah, geeze, the idiot is back. I don't know if I should be glad I have a moron to troll or if I should just turn off my computer and walk away.

Not every nations which has a public education sector is a "socialist state"

learn some history and maybe even consider learning a bit about the thing you think to know so much about.

History in your socialist schools? no thanks.

Because a reading of history, as it actually happened, shows we have quite a bit of 'socialism' in our nation. I mean, hell, it could easily be interepreted that the original articles of confederation failed simply because they didn't have enough socialism. The right wing crazy version of history is the one that's regularly debunked. They like to claim, for example, that the Boston Tea Party was a protest against government taxation when, in reality, it was a protest against a private corporation getting preferential treatment from te government. They like to claim that the Civil War was all about state's rights when the right that the southern states were most concerned about was the right to turn a person into a piece of property. They claim we never spent ourselves out of financial problems and, yet, that's exactly how we got out of the Great Depression.

Using violence to take from the productive classes to redistribute to public is the definition of socialism. And nothing you can say will change that basic reality, so I suggest you save your time.

We could make the same argument about funding for police, fire fighters, road maitenance, courts, military, prisons or a host of other publicly funded programs. If you claim is "X is bad because it's socialism," couldn't X be police just as easily as it could be schools or social security?

It's extremely simplistic to look at our nation and say we've always been capitalist. Even the founding fathers incorporated some decidedly socialist systems into our nation. Did you know John Adams incorporated a health care plan for sailors that would be the height of socialism today?

The reason we pay for things like this is simple: it makes all our lives better. You want to see what happens in a nation with no government? We have a place like that; it's called Somalia.

I'm going to go a step further, though, and say that a good education needs to be a responsibility of our people. If we're going to have a democracy where people make decisions that determine how our nation is governed, the people who vote should at least understand the issues enough to make educated decisions. For example, I may still disagree with Tiberius here about economic/political issues, but he can give intelligent, rational responses about the issues. Even though I disagree with him, I can respect him; you don't have that luxury, Chucky.