RE: When do you plan to Convert to Christanity?
February 3, 2013 at 3:48 pm
(This post was last modified: February 3, 2013 at 3:56 pm by catfish.)
(February 3, 2013 at 2:56 pm)Question Mark Wrote: "You failed to read the bible" and then referencing a bible passage isn't referencing the bible? And when did I say I wouldn't feel sympathy or provide for a widow and orphan? Where are you pulling this from? Can I not feel sympathy or do good works if I don't do it because the bible tells me so?
I asked you, after you quoted the bible, to tell me why you think the bible is a good indication of moral behaviour. I've read the bible, but if you've got something more that would prove its credentials, I'll be happy to read about it.
We're diverging paths in this conversation. The remark about not reading the Bible was directed to someone else. Mainly for making a claim about the earth being the center of the universe. Also for making the claim the Bible condones murder for those who don't believe the same...
I had assumed your response was to my quote as I said "Here is something I believe most of us would agree upon..."
Your response to that I thought was "I would entirely disagree with that. For one, can you tell me why it is that I should consider the bible to be a source of information for your god?"
My use of the Bible changes per the person I'm discussing it with.
If an atheist hates my God because of what's in the Bible, I can show how I don't see it as justified.
If a Christian uses the bible to force arbitrary rules and threats of eternal torment, I can show how that belief is unjustified to me.
Do I consider it an authority? Hades no! Your moral compass along with everyone else's moral compass is our authority. (and that is actually in the Bible too, whoda thunk it?)
We on the same page now?
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(February 3, 2013 at 3:08 pm)Question Mark Wrote: Can someone demonstrate this dosage of holy spirit? I've seen research that tells me that empathy for my fellow man is an evolutionary trait found in a number of animals that form groups and societies, but no one's ever been able to demonstrate the holy spirit to me. If someone could do that, it'd honestly be great, seeing a spirit would seriously be the most awesome thing that's happened in my life so far. I mean that with whole hearted sincerity, in some way experiencing a spirit in such a way that I can confirm its existence would be the single greatest event of my life so far.
Unless the answer is "have faith", in which case I'm just going to get annoyed.
A dosage of the so-called "holy spirit" can be demonstrated by one's willingness to condone human sacrifice and the murdering of 1st born children and other innocents. Fuck that, only a demon could believe that shit was righteous...
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I'll take the spirit of Truth any day.
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