Hey missluckie 
It seems to have passed over your head that I also agree with 80% of what catfish says. More than that possibly. You seem to be missing all of those similarities in our position and homing in on the disagreement between us. I am asking him openly to explain himself. He refuses and calls me names, yet you seem to think it's me doing that.
Have you seen him freely admit to not being an orthadox Christian? I have. Please let this sink in.
I hate religion, hold the belief that love wins / ie God is good and that that is biblically based, believe that there is no biblical backing for homophobia, etc.. I believe in reasoning your beliefs for yourself. I never take any one elses word for anything. I have to undesrstand it. What in catfish's refusal to discuss this with me do you find him being the loving, caring sharing kind?
Apparantly you think I'm attacking his faith?? I totally respect his and your right to belive what you like. What I have to question is his rejection of orthodox Christianity and at the same time his stated aleigence to it. He needs to be honest with us all here.
What do you think about the Jehova's Witness faith? They are fully bible believing christians by their own standards. They accept the whole of the bible, unlike catfish, but they don't accept the Nicene Creed or that Jesus died to save them. <-- This is orthadox Christianity. If you don't accept that then you aren't part of that group. This is the only problem here.
I don't doubt catfish's sincerity in what he's saying. He may be doing very nicely with his beliefs, and I wish him no ill in that.
catfish, to me, has some glaring inconsistencies obvious in his understanding of scripture. I try to discuss that with him but all I get is insults in return. Kudos to him that he thinks for himself. That is vitally importantly to me too. Don't you think it slightly odd that he formlates his ideas using atheists as his sounding board? How would atheists have any input to his perspective. Look at his threads and you see people responding in incredulity.
How the hell would you know that I don't speak for my religion accurately? You have zero understanding of it. That is why you are confused.
It seems to have passed over your head that I also agree with 80% of what catfish says. More than that possibly. You seem to be missing all of those similarities in our position and homing in on the disagreement between us. I am asking him openly to explain himself. He refuses and calls me names, yet you seem to think it's me doing that.
Have you seen him freely admit to not being an orthadox Christian? I have. Please let this sink in.
I hate religion, hold the belief that love wins / ie God is good and that that is biblically based, believe that there is no biblical backing for homophobia, etc.. I believe in reasoning your beliefs for yourself. I never take any one elses word for anything. I have to undesrstand it. What in catfish's refusal to discuss this with me do you find him being the loving, caring sharing kind?
Apparantly you think I'm attacking his faith?? I totally respect his and your right to belive what you like. What I have to question is his rejection of orthodox Christianity and at the same time his stated aleigence to it. He needs to be honest with us all here.
What do you think about the Jehova's Witness faith? They are fully bible believing christians by their own standards. They accept the whole of the bible, unlike catfish, but they don't accept the Nicene Creed or that Jesus died to save them. <-- This is orthadox Christianity. If you don't accept that then you aren't part of that group. This is the only problem here.
I don't doubt catfish's sincerity in what he's saying. He may be doing very nicely with his beliefs, and I wish him no ill in that.
catfish, to me, has some glaring inconsistencies obvious in his understanding of scripture. I try to discuss that with him but all I get is insults in return. Kudos to him that he thinks for himself. That is vitally importantly to me too. Don't you think it slightly odd that he formlates his ideas using atheists as his sounding board? How would atheists have any input to his perspective. Look at his threads and you see people responding in incredulity.
How the hell would you know that I don't speak for my religion accurately? You have zero understanding of it. That is why you are confused.
