new testament, matthew chapter 2

[Drich]

justin: 19-22 dude.......

Context Justin. 23 frames all that happens in a proper context. God allowed those events to happen to full fill His will. His will being that Joseph had a legit reason to detour to Nazerath.

...based on your standards of God. Or rather your personal idea of God. One that seems to be based in personal feeling.

One that looks like it needs to be beaten a little more, if I take what you wrote in your post into consideration.

justin: hock: ok then your god doesn`t mind mass slaughter of innocent children. got it.

You are Begging the question. (Logical fallacy) Reset and try again.

and to just make some stone age bullshit prophecy come true. man what an asshole.

You don't seem to understand prophecy either. True prophecy is not a prediction. It is written as a record (like a historical event.) Prophets are given to view and record what the future holds. They don't guess at the future.

It was written because from That given prophet's perspective it had already happened. (That the savior would come from Nazerath.)

justin: doesn`t make any sense

I do not disagree that what I have said, may not line up with what you think you know, but it is biblically consistant. (If you remember our first few exchanges in this thread, I wanted to know how willing you were to question what you thought you knew about god and this religion.) If you want to study ANY thing I have said in more detail all you have to do is ask Here or by PM.

It's only a mess if your looking to control the hearts and minds of men.

justin: that doesn`t make any sense either.

Broken down (respectfuly as possiable)

1.God Gave Control of this world to man in the Garden. (by of a covenant God made with Adam to rule this realm.)

2.When Adam ate of the tree, control was passed to Lucifer. As Man gave into lucifer's temptations. This allowed Lucifer to weild the power given to man by God. (Because satan controled man through sin)

3.Lucifer Reigned up until the Death and resurection of Christ. Because Sin's hold on man had been broken/attoned for.

At the time Christ was a Child, Lucifer reigned (as Christ had not died yet.) Satan Controled Herod's Heart, thus controling Herod. God did not interfer because it would interfer with the conevant God made with Adam for him and his offspring to rule this world. In other words if God stopped Herod or put someone in place of Herod He would have to control the Hearts of man, thus invalidating everything God has done up to this point (allowing us true choice) and paving the way for attonement.

justin: pain, suffering, families torn apart?
again this makes no sense

Why? Because your version of God is Always merciful? Always the Halmark version of the word loving?? again you are asking about the nature of the character of the God of the bible. It is from the bible you frame your question, so it should also be from the bible you build a picture of God. Not your personal idea of Him.

justin: you`re right he isn`t all merciful. another reason i wouldn`t follow him .thanks!

That is what this life was given to us for. is to make that very determination. Once you have made your choice know you are ready to face eternity.

justin: uh friend or foe man friend or foe. he loves all....think on it a little bit

Look at the verse again. It does not Say God loves "friends or foes." These are instructions for believers.

God has compiled a list of those in whom He righteously hates/hated. Which again would not be possiable if that verse says what you think it does.

justin: except for the whole....idk... WORSHIP ME OR BURN IN HELL YOU SINFUL SCUM THING!

Preach it brother!

so again this doesn`t make sense. well you have given me your understanding and i have realized you don`t have a better explanation than anyone who supports these claim. thanks for your input, it made no sense just like your reasoning.

It makes no sense because you have closed your mind to anything that does not look like the strawman god you built from peices of your sunday school exposure. I have repersented God has He appears in scripture, I have further extend an invitation for you to explore any or all aspects of what I have explained. Just highlight concerns you and ask for B,C,V
(Book Chapter and Verse.)

I promise not to use one verse from here and one verse from there and so on to build a bastardized picture of God. I will assign whole Chapters and books to read so that contextual evidence can be gathered to frame an accurate biblical picture.

If it does not make sense, then know you are lacking some vital information. so ask a question. Unless I was right, and you have indeed closed your mind to anything that does not look like what you have created in your mind/church experience and labled 'god.'