RE: Legislation for gay marriage is approved in the UK House of Commons!
February 15, 2013 at 2:11 pm
(This post was last modified: February 15, 2013 at 2:23 pm by DeistPaladin.)
(February 15, 2013 at 1:39 pm)A Theist Wrote: ...and neither are you! But yet you state your position and act as though you shouldn't be challenged, which is the all too familiar and usual arrogance of the leftwing
My position is at least based on scientific consensus. Yours is based on ignorance, bare assertions and bigotry.
You may feel in your heart that homosexuality is a mental illness but psychologists, as reflected in the peer-reviewed DSM, have reached a different conclusion and did so a long time ago (somewhere in the 70s, as I recall). Like it or not, there it is.
I have never stated that I shouldn't be challenged. Quite to the contrary, I have repeatedly said you are entitled to your beliefs and express them as beliefs. However, when you push your beliefs as if they were facts, I will call you out on your arrogance.
You conservatives whine all the time about how the left is so elitist and snobby. This is, quite frankly, simply a cover for anti-intellectual arrogance and bigotry. Sorry that reality has such a liberal bias but you're not entitled to your own facts.
(February 15, 2013 at 1:46 pm)A Theist Wrote:(February 15, 2013 at 1:44 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:Which was a response to this quote from DP....
Both the leftwing and the rightwing can be arrogant. I just find it hilarious that you're throwing politics into a scientific/philosophical disagreement.
Yup... that'll get you somewhere
Quote:Presenting beliefs as statements of fact starts to cross the line into arrogance. This is an especially disturbing trend among conservatives these days,Does your response also apply to him as well since he did the same?
And once again we see the "both sides do it" trench that conservatives run and hide in every time they get called out and they can't justify their own behavior. The formal logical fallacy here is called ad hominem tu quoque.
And once again, the problem with this last line of defense is "both sides don't."
I offered specific examples where conservatives are science deniers. When discussing global warming or evolution, conservative Christians are fond of indulging in conspiracy theories. They trust science to fly them in planes, cure their diseases and power their computers but when it tells them what they don't want to hear, suddenly the science of climatology has been taken over by conspirators or an atheist cabal has subverted the process of peer review on evolution or the gay bullies have forced psychologists to give them the green light.
Now you offer me an example of liberals doing the same thing or drop the glib "well, both sides do it".
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