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How can we be sure this is reality?

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How can we be sure this is reality?
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RE: How can we be sure this is reality?
February 15, 2013 at 4:53 pm
(February 15, 2013 at 4:41 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Please tell me you didn't fall for that recent new age si fi "simulation" woo?

That is simply replacing a god with a cosmic Captain Kirk with the same baggage of infinite regress.

-_-

Its just a useful analogy..

(February 15, 2013 at 4:41 pm)Brian37 Wrote: If we are a simulation, then what caused that simulation? And if we are a simulation then the simulation that caused us has to be even more complex than the simulation we are, and then what caused that simulation that caused that simulation and so on and so on and so on.

Simulation explains nothing. It is a si fi gap answer, it is simply trying to replace a god with another type of cause.

The point I'm trying to make is that we would not be able to tell the difference between a completely synthesized universe compared to a 'real' one. It doesn't matter how far you want to go with it simulationception style but the point remains that we can't tell for sure.

(February 15, 2013 at 4:41 pm)Brian37 Wrote: We don't know. So until we know don't assume we are the cause of a god or a simulation or pink unicorns.

Thats what I've been saying damn it! We don't know!!! What you assume is up to you. You can assume this is real or that its not. It doesn't much matter to me. But science is based on the assumption that our world is real.
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How can we be sure this is reality? - by Phish - February 14, 2013 at 2:00 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 14, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Phish - February 14, 2013 at 2:12 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Minimalist - February 14, 2013 at 2:39 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Angrboda - February 14, 2013 at 2:41 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by justin - February 14, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by frankiej - February 14, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Confused Ape - February 14, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 14, 2013 at 3:17 pm
How can we be sure this is reality? - by JDFlood - February 14, 2013 at 5:32 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 14, 2013 at 10:40 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Confused Ape - February 15, 2013 at 4:49 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by CleanShavenJesus - February 14, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Psykhronic - February 14, 2013 at 7:41 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Angrboda - February 14, 2013 at 9:20 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Angrboda - February 15, 2013 at 2:36 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Angrboda - February 15, 2013 at 8:29 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Confused Ape - February 15, 2013 at 9:20 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Tiberius - February 15, 2013 at 9:25 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 11:17 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Tiberius - February 15, 2013 at 5:18 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Mister Agenda - February 15, 2013 at 11:28 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 11:50 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Mister Agenda - February 15, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Zone - February 15, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 12:11 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Mister Agenda - February 15, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Zone - February 15, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 12:27 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Violet - February 15, 2013 at 12:29 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 12:34 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Mister Agenda - February 15, 2013 at 12:22 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Violet - February 15, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Phish - February 15, 2013 at 1:09 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Violet - February 15, 2013 at 1:33 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Violet - February 15, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Annik - February 15, 2013 at 2:10 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Jackalope - February 15, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 2:35 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Jackalope - February 15, 2013 at 2:36 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Jackalope - February 15, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Jackalope - February 15, 2013 at 3:09 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 3:17 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Jackalope - February 15, 2013 at 3:27 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Violet - February 15, 2013 at 3:02 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Violet - February 15, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Violet - February 15, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by junkyardboy - February 15, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 4:00 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Violet - February 15, 2013 at 4:16 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Annik - February 15, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Annik - February 15, 2013 at 4:11 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by catfish - February 15, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 4:53 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Annik - February 15, 2013 at 4:49 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 4:58 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Violet - February 15, 2013 at 4:54 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Annik - February 15, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by catfish - February 15, 2013 at 5:08 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 5:21 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by catfish - February 15, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Jackalope - February 15, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Jackalope - February 15, 2013 at 5:41 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Tiberius - February 15, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Jackalope - February 15, 2013 at 7:53 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 8:41 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Tiberius - February 15, 2013 at 5:47 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by catfish - February 15, 2013 at 5:58 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Tiberius - February 15, 2013 at 6:55 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 7:28 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 7:33 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by catfish - February 15, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by catfish - February 15, 2013 at 8:38 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Tiberius - February 15, 2013 at 8:47 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Brian37 - February 15, 2013 at 9:32 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Nine - February 15, 2013 at 10:04 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Rayaan - February 16, 2013 at 4:21 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Phish - February 16, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Jackalope - February 15, 2013 at 9:06 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by catfish - February 15, 2013 at 9:55 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Shell B - February 16, 2013 at 12:31 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Cato - February 16, 2013 at 2:19 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Angrboda - February 16, 2013 at 3:57 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Annik - February 16, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by catfish - February 16, 2013 at 4:23 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by LastPoet - February 16, 2013 at 2:32 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Violet - February 16, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by ManMachine - February 19, 2013 at 5:54 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by junkyardboy - February 20, 2013 at 12:34 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by downbeatplumb - February 20, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by junkyardboy - February 20, 2013 at 7:51 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Confused Ape - February 21, 2013 at 5:42 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Cato - February 21, 2013 at 5:55 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by junkyardboy - February 22, 2013 at 1:45 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by The Grand Nudger - February 22, 2013 at 1:57 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Severan - February 27, 2013 at 10:45 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by junkyardboy - February 28, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Severan - February 28, 2013 at 2:10 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Shell B - February 28, 2013 at 7:06 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by junkyardboy - April 3, 2013 at 11:33 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Violet - April 5, 2013 at 12:05 pm
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by Violet - March 4, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by jstrodel - March 5, 2013 at 12:59 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by junkyardboy - April 3, 2013 at 11:37 am
RE: How can we be sure this is reality? - by junkyardboy - April 5, 2013 at 11:56 am

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