(February 15, 2013 at 5:08 pm)catfish Wrote: "Whatever came before the big bang I view as merely being as simply like the seasons changing"
Seems like if you don't have evidence of your "seasons changing", you believe in woo...
Just stating the obvious in hopes that you'll see a pattern there.
We don't know what came before the bigbang, therefore woo.
We don't know what sparked the first lifeform, therefore woo.
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What? I am anti woo not pro woo.
We don't know, everyone here so far agrees with that, including me.
I simply don't ponder anything accept the law of probability. If we are going to speculate on something or nothing before, then I am going to base the most likely answer on what we see now, our current data. And our current data is view life and the universe as cyclical. Evolution is a cycle. The sun has a cycle, and the planet rotates around the sun in a cycle, and black holes have time spans too.
RIGHT NOW the debate in science is it could have come from nothing or it could be a product of material processes prior. What is not required and can be ruled out is a cognition as the cause. And I doubt us being a program of some sort is a necessity either.