(February 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm)TaraJo Wrote: The only time I hear this line of questioning come up is when theists claim that since everything has to come from something, god must exist to have created the universe. However, by their own logic, that means god himself must have his own creator.... and that creator has its own creator and there has to be a creator for hat creator and so on. If God doesn't need a creator, the line of logic that the theist was on just disolves.
It is a philosophical conundrum regardless of whether you're a theist or an atheist. Are we the result of an endless recession of events that ultimately led to our existence? Did the universe or something always exist and was never created? Or did the universe come into existence uncaused out of nothing? The problem with the first explanation is we'd have to cross an infinity of events to reach the events we're now at...rather problematic. I've been told on this board atheists no longer argue the notion the universe popped into existence uncaused so that leaves the idea that something always existed.